The War In Iraq Is Over!

Well, that rather depends what you mean by 'peace'.

If by peace you mean wishing to put their middle finger up to every UN resolution, then they want peace.

If by peace you mean that they arrogantly ignore international law, then they want peace.

If by peace you mean they routinely used phospehrous bombs to burn the skin of children, then sure they want peace.

They want a peace alright.

They want a 'piece of this, and a piece of that'.

 

You are mistaken.

It actually harms ordinary Americans to be used, as you are, as Israel's attack dogs, in the Middle East and beyond.

It harms you financially for one thing.

 

Hey, I didn't say I liked the fact that we did it...

 

Hmm. The US must be of a more socialistic persuasion than I originally thought.

 

Europe helped defeat America in Iraq.

Iran is the victor in Iraq.

Iran now extends from the Mediterranean to Central Asia.

 

If you are going to use the UN resolutions, then you will need to define "serious" in this context. The UN did give their definition and hence stated that a new resolution will be required to attack Iraq. Hence the invasion was illegal according to the UN.

 

We only attack, when and where we judge it to be in our own self interest. Over 70% of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq. And with your silly delusions, you think the jews were behind it. Absurd. Brits were overwhelmingly opposed to the invasion. Your silly theories would of at least made sense in the case of Britain. Their government acted in opposition to the will of the people and one might theorize outside influence altered their decision. But in the US, there was overwhelming support for the invasion. Bush was the first US President to call for the creation of a Palestinian state. Do you really think this was according to these AIPAC masters you imagine pulling the strings?

 

But that figure would have arisen on a knee-jerk response and falsified evidence. I an actually surprised that so many UK residents objected to the war given that we were also fed the same lies.

 

The British population has been subject to leftist behavioral conditioning for decades. They are like Pavlov's dogs.

 

Save a veteran; ditch the drug war.

 

??? UN hasnt made any determination of the legality of the invasion. And their endorsement of the occupation would make any allegation of illegality an admission of UN guilt and so therefore unlikely.

 

September 13,2001, 78% of Americans who were asked if Saddam was likely involved in the 9/11 attacks said yes. All the WMD allegations were for the benefit of the UN. US was prepared to go it alone. The UN resolution route was for gaining UKs support.

 

Okay, I admit I added the colour there, but if the US was not such a powerful member of the UN, then I have no doubt that the invasion would have been classified as a war crime. At the time of the invasion, the UK government was waiting for the decision on the forming of the second resolution. USA knew that if a second resolution was needed, Russia and China would veto any invasion, and hence began their attacks before any agreement with UN members

 

LOL at how some can suddenly give a stuff about the UN and their resolutions, when it suits them.

If they were consistant, then they would be calling on NATO and US forces to use force to exact regime change in Israel, since they violate more UN Resolutions than any other state or nation.

But you notice that when it comes to Israel, suddenly, the UN and it's resolutions, they can be ignored.

Hypocrisy?

 

I am sure that a similar figure would have been obtained if the question was "do you think that Iran was involved " or "do you think that Palestine was involved" or "do you think that Somalia was involved". The majority of the voters would follow whatever the government says; a knee jerk reaction.

The uranium allegation was supplied by the UK government to the US government to feed their public. The chemical and biological "evidence" was supplied by the US government to the UK government to feed to their public.

 

I dont think it had a thing to do with either. We have a history with Iraq that the UK does not.

Saddam to the US Ambassador in 1991

And then in 1993

And a few weeks later in February of 93 an Iraqi bombmaker and Ramzi Youssef, traveling with Iraqi passports detonate a bomb in the basement of WTC, and flee to Iraq.

In 1998, Clinton threatened to attack Iraq in a speech at the Pentagon,

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and 5 days later, like a puppet on a string

From Iraqi newspaper in July 2001

Identifying all 3 targets of 9/11. Then Ramzi Yousefs uncle, Khalid Muhammad orchestrates the 9/11 attacks. Weeks after 9/11, saddams letter to the US.

and finally

 

And what an inglorious one it is indeed.

I am only sad that the criminal mafias of my country lied to the people, to take us into it, with the US, meaning that our nation also has blood on it's hands.

That Blair was never made to answer for his crimes, makes a mockery of accountablity. Not to mention Bush, Cheney, et all, with a special mention for Paul Wofowitz. That he was then made 'peace envoy' to the Middle East, was merely adding insult to injury.

 

Orangemen are like Israelis. Orangemen can never be Irish. They will always be interlopers. It's the same principle.

 

None of those nations have the history that we have had with Iraq. Iran would be the only one that is believable. BUT, had we of instead responded to 9/11 by doing as Bin Laden instructed in his 98 fatwa, end the sanctions on Iraq, withdraw all troops from the region, it likely would inspire others with a grievance against the US to adopt such effective tactics.

And from memory I stated the question somewhat more leading than it actually was.

 

I had to comment on this one. I was shocked by your statement.
Are you sure about this? Who do you think created the Iraq that we know today? The British ruled Iraq from 1920.

 

That means the Israeli civilians want to be able to sleep and be secure in their person. However they can not due to the vicious *******ed* Hamas terrorist rocketing Israel, killing men women and children.

*(sadly, murdering terrorists deserve special attention, and should be dehumanized, hence the *******ed comment).

If I was the leader if Israel I would have attacked and razed to the ground any nation that allowed state sponsored terrorism etc. What the anti-Israel idiots should be forced to learn either by military action or hopefully education is that Israel is not to blame, the propaganda steeped world and the powers that operate covertly is*!

* Those Arab and corporate interests that support the destruction of Israel, and all free people.

Here is a little piece to demonstrate malicious contentions, and expose how the propaganda that the usual suspects accept as truth ruins the ability to debate in a honest manner. Note to the honest people; Brace yourself this little excerpt is the tip of the liars club’s iceberg ;

On April 22, 2009, the Israel Defense Forces presented the conclusions of multiple investigations into its conduct during the war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip. The investigations found that Israel operated in accordance with international law and was not guilty committing war crimes* during the course of military operations.

Ha, ha, when I read such malevolent statements such as Israel intentionally using Phosphorus for offensive military campaigns and are intentionally targeting children, your credibility is damaged.

Yes, agreed! I am happy you coming around to truth.

And when the Arabs step out of line they get a piece of this and that, ha ha, just as they should.

Notes * The use of weapons containing white phosphorus is standard, legal, and a tactic employed by other western militaries worldwide, including states that are signatories of the Third Protocol of the Convention Weapons (CCW).
-The IDF’s use of white phosphorus was in accordance with Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law, and more specifically, the obligations with regard to munitions with incendiary characteristics.
-The IDF uses white phosphorus as a smoke screen, and uses certain smoke bombs that contain elements of white phosphorus. These uses are standard and legal. The use of smoke obscurants proved to be a very effective means, and in many cases, prevented the need to use explosive munitions whose impact would have been considerably more dangerous.
-According to a Senior IDF Military Official, the IDF stopped using white phosphorus on January 7, 2009, despite its legality and tactical benefits, in response to the outrage in the media regarding its use.


Rev A

 

A history that began in 1991

 

Utter rubbish! How many times do I have to post this clip before the truth sinks in and you open your mind to reality?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TG0vdzrmt4"]Netanyahu boasting about Manipulating America and derailing Oslo peace process [better subtitles[ - YouTube[/ame]

This isn't Islamic fundamentalist propaganda, nor some leftist fantasy but Israel's leader boasting openly that peace is the last thing he wants.

 

??? Obviously youve convinced yourself that Oslo was a path to peace and Netanyahu has not. I tend to agree with Netanyahu.