The War In Iraq Is Over!

Well that is very understandable. After all you have been fed lies for ten long years by your controlled media.
There have been 3 supposed attacks in the west by Muslims in the past 20 years.
All were inside jobs. 9-11, London and Madrid.

You are more likely to be killed by a centipede that can recite the complete works of shakespeare than you are by a Muslim terrorist.

 

Saddam was always a tinhorn dictator. When he set his sights on Kuwait he became a tinhorn dictator we could no longer support.

Saddam to the US Ambassador in 1991

And then in 1993

And a few weeks later in February of 93 an Iraqi bombmaker and Ramzi Youssef, traveling with Iraqi passports detonate a bomb in the basement of WTC, and flee to Iraq.

In 1998, Clinton threatened to attack Iraq in a speech at the Pentagon,

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

and 5 days later, like a puppet on a string

From Iraqi newspaper in July 2001

Identifying all 3 targets of 9/11. Then Ramzi Yousefs uncle, Khalid Muhammad orchestrates the 9/11 attacks. Weeks after 9/11, saddams letter to the US.

and then finally

 

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

None of those "objectives and aims" were achieved the way Saddam wanted. Iraq is now free of 687 sanctions, the dilemma of the "protracted blockade" of One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq!, but not on his terms or those of his Sunni pronoun people proxy Al Quacka.

One objective was not to let them have their objective their way.

Regardless of what is said about the Shiites, and the benefit to Iran, the UN Charter's purposes of removing a threat to the peace based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples has been met. Saddam may have been "performing the function of a ‘cork in the bottle’ in the Persian Gulf containing the power of Iran" as General Wesley Clark on Your World Cavuto said, but that was not per the UN Charter. Removing Saddam and the objectives of Operation Iraqi Freedom were according to the Objectives and Aims of the UN Charter, whether the world likes it or not. What the Iraqis and Iranians do with that, is up to them.

"Some voices have risen on the part of some peoples, journalists, writers, and, in a very restricted way, the voices of those who are preparing themselves, in the shadow, to replace the rulers there. Nevertheless, the latter are still hesitant voices that deal with the situation in the light of the balance of interests of the posts they expect to occupy, and of the influence of the centers of power." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southnews/message/1816

Those objectives looked like they were being met to the satifaction of the Non-Aligned Movement, of which Iraq and Libya was a part of that group's membership, but Obama has played a part in removing one of Minister Farrakhan's world tour buddies. So he does not appear to have been their "Messiah is absolutely speaking."

For those of us who voted for Andre V. Marrou to protest the lukewarm "liberal" arts of war in Iraq, who always felt Saddam was the problem and Gorby saying, "that is far enough" was not enough, the objectives of ending the sanctions by removing the dictator were mission accomplished.

Our economic situation is the result of our own failures to regulate banking and to prevent deficit with the tax cuts that started before 9/11. So those objectives on the World Trade Centers did not do us in.

The world of dictators, of South Movement, of the Non-Aligned Movement, that opposed removing the dictators now has to save face and deal with an Arab revolt against dictators and presidents for life.

"‘I believe the American people deserve a president who just isn't going to have a friendly talk, but who is going to fight to guarantee that we lower prices for Americans,’ Kerry said.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-04-22-kerry-saudi_x.htm

“’I'm here today to say if there was no deal, if there was no agreement, then stand up today and jawbone OPEC to lower the price,’ Kerry said. ‘They could up that production tomorrow. We need to have them answer why they won't do that.’" http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-04-22-kerry-saudi_x.htm

Jawbones work best with Samson, and other dictators, with one to intimidate with unfriendly measures instead of a legislature elected by a people, with Saddam having a part in kicking this out of Baghdad:


Air France is so nice.

“Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.”

“Regimes should be overthrown from within” (Chomsky)
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20020416.htm

What do I care if the Arab Spring is motivated to more fervently believe now in that--to take the reigns of power for themselves and their posterity; that the "consent of the governed" is the only way they can prevent an Iran-Iraq war between a 1979 French Whine of a Jawbone of an ass and a "cork in the bottle" who kicked him out of Baghdad, or a Kuwaiti invasion for oil, or sanctions and no fly zones imposed by foreign powers until the dictator falls away into the dustbin of history and old age retirement passing power onto his diseased sons--then we truly have Mission Accomplished!

 

Opposing continued occupation. They now have their own government and military now.

 

Who is WE? The MIC never acts on behalf of the US people.

Now then you fail to understand the first gulf war.

Saddam.. the US buddy was given the go ahead to invade Kuwait by Rumsfeld (his good friend).

They did this to justify the trillion dollar gulf war.

 

I think the term "War" is inaccurate. Occupation or training exercise perhaps but even at its height it really wasnt a war as Republican gaurd never did fight back.

It seems hypocritical to call Iraq a war but call 911 "enemy combatants"

Even if it was a war at one time, shortly after toppling Saddam the war was over. After that it becomes an occupation.

 

The US

What silliness. He did no such thing.

 

That Rummy garbage gets really old.

“It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world’s most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.” (Remarks of Senator Barack Obama The War We Need to Win Wednesday, August 1, 2007)http://www.wilsoncenter.org/events/docs/obamasp0807.pdf

“we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;” http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm {"Liberals" insert picture of Rummy and Saddam}

After ten thousand times of that being shoved in my face… EAT IT “LIBERALS.”

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Even if nothing can be said to make you not believe "Saddam.. the US buddy was given the go ahead to invade Kuwait," there is one thing that is irrefutable, we could not make him invade for Oil to pay for his war with Iran.

Now if you want to claim Saddam was a Socialist pawn of Fabian Socialists, feel free; back by popular demand:

After Edward Kennedy tells “Why not the Best” Jimmy Carter “now is not the time for Socialised Medicine,” and Reagan was too popular, the Old World Order Fabian Socialists must have figured that they needed a Jawbone to attack US. So the Old World Order Fabian Socialists create the Mujahideen (Al Quacka on the payroll of Jimmy Carter?). Then while Jacques Chirac was mayor of Paris the Socialists flew the Ayatollah in for the 444 days of glory in Iran (friends of the Russians now), and prop up Cork Saddam (a friend of the Soviets), putting Sunni and Shiite in place for conflict, or Machiavellian cheap oil. All of that because Reagan was way too popular (In Atlanta I shook Reagan’s hand in 1976 and told him that after four years of Carter America would be begging for him.). Still they tried to get Reagan with Iran-Contra (remember Ortega and Jimmy Carter are Socialist butt buddies). Since Bush Sr. was not as popular as Reagan, he was a one term wonder when the Cork was used to get the Third Way socialists elected. The Third Way socialists allowed their Cork to continue to support terrorism in violation of H32 of UN resolution 687; Iraq was on the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism throughout the entire Third Way socialist Clinton Administration. Socialist Ramsey Clark, Saddam’s Defense attorney, Deputy Attorney General in the administration of Socialist PT boat hero Kennedy (yachted with deliberate act of betrayal PT boat hero John Kerry), was connected to the September 11, 2001, attacks against America, when Jimmy Carter‘s Mujahideen was used to try and make NWO “W“ another one term wonder.

If Iraq keeps the type of government Operation Iraqi Freedom was all about, the UN will not be dealing with one man but a government of the people that must vote to stay or leave after another invasion of Kuwait...after their Monkey in Chief acts...

 

Thats just silly, and there was the 93 WTC

 

You seemed to answer your own question. It makes perfect sense to me to play two bad guys off against each other. We didn't start the Iraq/Iran war but it sure kept two baddies busy for a few years.

But again, the Iraq war wasn't about oil. I think you could make an argument that the Gulf war was about oil though. We didn't want Iraq controlling the oilfields of both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, but that's not really the topic, which you kind of dodged.

 

History tells us. Germany, Japan, South Korea and now Afghanistan and Iraq. Any country weve invaded and occupied, weve left behind democracy and self determination to give them the ability to exercise their freedoms.

 

Ignorant speculation, wishful thinking, not lies.

 

All because maybe 15% of the population of each country is against the United States doesn't mean that ALL of them are against us. I'm sure things will smooth over once we finally leave their country and they begin to prosper 20 or 30 years from now. And I can assure you they WILL prosper because they have the United States as their trusted adviser. Why do you think Japan and South Korea are so successful? Knowledge is power!

 

So, you do not mind abbandoning our allies to the Islamonazi losers that are just waiting to pounce on the weak and helpless in those countries with their murderous Islamnazi tyranny? Leftists suck.

 

There's loads of them around whom America allows to continue being despots with no intervention, so what made Saddam so special? He was no threat to America.

 

Wow; who would have thought it stupid to trust the advice of a financially crippled and belligerent nation?

 

Financially crippled? You wish! Despite the fact that our country is largely in debit, we're still the wealthiest country on earth. Our country is a well-oiled money making machine. All we need are the right MANAGERS to re-adjust things.

 

This had to happen or US troops were going to face Iraqi courts. This is a grade of D for Obama on a scale from A (good) to F (failure). F would have been allowing troops to face trial in Iraq. B- would have been having the balls to declare this before Iraq declared it for him. Kind of like saying I quit just after you were fired and before the paperwork made it to human resources.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/...es/iraq/status-of-forces-agreement/index.html

"in October, Iraq’s leaders announced that they had agreed on the need to keep American military trainers in the country in 2012, but they declared that any remaining troops should not be granted immunity from Iraqi law, a point the United States said would be a deal breaker." from the link

 

Yes he did. Saddam was tricked into invading Kuwait and reclaiming what was once Iraqi land. The US tricked him so that they would have a justification for their trillion dollar Hollywood "war". I call it a war but it was infact a chicken shoot with only one side fighting....when I say fighting .. i mean dropping bombs from great heights on a conscript army of peasants. I call it the Gulf Genocide.

However it made trillions for the MIC and cost the American people trillions... just like all US "wars".

 

This is the funniest post that I have ever read. Thank you for the laugh.

 

Funny stuff. So you are claiming credit on behalf of the US for the democracy in these nations? Much deluded are we?

By the way.. there is about as much chance of democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan as there is the American people challenging the dictatorship of the MIC and corporations in the US.

How can a nation that gets to choose once every 4 years between 2 corporate controlled pawns... talk about democracy and freedom?

IRONY thy name is AMERICA.

 

"I call it a war but it was infact a chicken shoot with only one side fighting....when I say fighting .. i mean dropping bombs from great heights on a conscript army of peasants. I call it the Gulf Genocide." KingRichard

You should see the ire that comes when you criticize the military in the USA. The USA fighting Iraq and Afghanistan (with all due respect) is like shooting fish in a barrel. There is superior weaponry, superior surveillance and superior air support (drones and planes). If the military wants a real fight, they should go to the inner cities in the USA where weapons restrictions occur.

 

Not to sound pessimistic but when they all come home, what are they coming home to? There are no jobs.

 

This would be true with ANY country the US went to war with. You're completely naive if you think any country in this world isn't out to help themselves. Be glad Islam doesn't rule this world - yet.

 

I would be proud of the USA if it stole the oil rights to Iraq. Once the USA leaves, the Chinese, Russians and Iranians will probably occupy Iraq. My tax dollars should have gone towards an objective (i.e. theft of oil). Barring that, what did I buy for the last 8 years?