The War In Iraq Is Over!

That is pessimistic.

Maybe some "evidence" of WMDs in Canada could be found?

There is no need for the party to ever finish.

 

Not a bad idea. We can roll over Canada in our sleep.

 

Seems you did that in Vietnam and look where it got you. What the US boasts as an achievement, everyone else knows better as a failure.

Iraq is a defeat. Where was the first place the US forces headed for when entering Baghdad? It wasn't for Saddam, was it! No! It was the Oil Ministry.

So how much oil did the US actually get for their 10 year failure and billion dollar outlay?

 

Canada isn't Vietnam. Most of the Canadian people will go along with the idea of an American invasion if they're told there is a role for them in the process. The sad truth is that this is not hyperbole.

 

Obviously you've never been to America. The greatest country on earth!

 

Good. Obama will just send a lot of secret assasins to deal with terrorists Bush Torture them. Obama just kill them all.

 

As long as a Republican isn't running it?

 

Well I don't know what you call being in the red with no immediate prospect of getting back into credit, but I call it being broke.

 

Proud of theft? Proud of criminal actions? Doesn't say much about your precious America if those are the kind of moral principles you're advocating it should adopt.

 

Absolute nonsense. The US is a very poor military. It only attacks peasant farmers in nations that offer no resistance.
The US would never invade a serious nation.

 

You bought what you always buy. Huge profits for the MIC and associated corporations.
The US powers always start wars as an indirect way of stealing trillions from the stupid US public.

 

Yes I have. I have been to the states several times. I do enjoy some parts..however as a whole it would not be in my top 20 countries to live in.

 

Are you out of your mind?

Canadians have the ability to think for themselves. Something Americans know very little about. Invariably government doesn't tell us what to do. We tell them.

Until it was the 'you are with us or against us' mentality.

 

That's rather an underestimate for an American.

What happened to the Universe?

 

It could become great , unfortunately its handicapped by r its exceptionally high proportion of loud mouth, odious, narrow minded, seppos.


btw - I too have spent several holidays overthere, deliberately avoided yr cities - essentially visiting national parks - Grand Canyon- Bryce - Zion Nat - Yosemite- Monument valley , etc. short stop-overs in small towns . There's nothing else America's got that appeals to me - most is garbage.


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cheers....

 

So I take it the new form of debate is insult? Are you trying to convince Americans of something other than your own attitudes? You may find it strange but we're quite used to anti-Americans. The attitude doesn't change anything in us at all - only in the anti-Americans.

 

Actually, I was simply pointing out the historical fact that these countries weve occupied, now have democracy and self determination.

I dont deny that democracy and self determination will have a longer road to travel in Afghanistan and Iraq, than it had in the others.

Since WWII, our insistance on democracy and self determination has transformed much of the world to democracy and self determination, that likely wouldnt have occured without it. East Germany and North Korea demonstrate the alternatives. Saddams Baathist regime and the Taliban are the current alternatives.

 

What silliness. Allege this nefarious plot of war for oil, then when it doesnt come to fruition, allege a dsimal failure. No doubt youll point to the absence of a US pipeline across Afghanistan as evidence of our failure in Afghanistan.

 

"Broke"??? Less "broke" than the UK.

 

Are you comparing our military to some other nations military? Which country?

Or are you comparing to some military you have imagined?

 

Wha... you're joking right? I mean, no one could actually believe that right?

 

Canada isn't a nation. The prairie provinces have more in common with Texas and Oklahoma than they do with Ontario. Quebec isn't Canadian. Quebecois have a different mindset. The maritimes? More like Maine and New Hampshire than Ontario. BC? More in common with the Pacific Northwest and Northern California than with Ontario. The Yukon is more like Alaska. Nunavut is like Mars and can't be accessed by Canadians.

Canadians don't think for themselves. If they did they would be able to agree on who they are as a people. Canadians all too often define themselves by who they are not. Not Americans. That is a negative mindset which is corrosive.

Canadians are the only people in all of human history who have voluntarily surrendered their freedom and independence of action by willingly integrating and subordinating their economy and national security policy to a hegemon. That is what is unique about Canadians. There is nothing to be proud about in subordination.

And now Canada is going to become the home of millions of legal and illegal American immigrants in search of opportunity. Canada will be transformed by the experience.

 

I just find it deeply ironic...you waffle about bringing democracy to other nations and yet the US itself is the least democratic and least free nation in the western world.

The average American has NO say in who governs them. Their media is ENTIRELY controlled and they are fed constant lies and propaganda.

Once every 4 years..an american gets to choose between 2 IDENTICAL candidates..both controlled by the constant power that runs the US.

Perhaps Americans had better start seeking democracy for themselves before they talk about bringing democracy elsewhere?

 

You fail to mention the DOZENS of brutal dictators that the US has established and backed across the globe (including Saddams Baathist regime) over the past few decades. Is there any reason why you would omit these from your theory?

 

Both wars were created by the rulers of the US... the MIC.

Both wars meant TRILLION dollar contracts over a beautiful decade for the MIC.

Oil, pipelines would be the cherry on a massive cake for your rulers.