There is no right to have an abortion

Nice dodge.

Answer the question please.

AA

 

As I stated....if men could get pregnant we would have Abortion Clinic Drive Threw's.

As he refuses to answer my simple question it is apparent that even he cannot support his own position in that case.

AA

 

What role have you played in being pregnant?

 

This is an example of a person having a strong opinion but never taking the time to look at all the possible issues.

You cannot have a complete abortion ban as this would be in effect making slaves out of women.

The best steps we can take to drastically lower the number of abortions is to educate boys and girls before they are able to reproduce in how to use contraceptives, abstinence, educate them about STD's and most importantly educate them how to get and use Morning After and Plan B drugs which do not allow a fertilized egg cell to implant itself in the uterine wall.

AA

 

I think I did. put the man in jail.

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Does that solve your problem where you had the father raping his 13 year old?

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I have 2 daughters as well as two abortions to my credit. And I am very very unhappy with the latter.

Most of this is theory to you guys. To me, it was life and death.

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I am now a homosexual hater Fox Hastings?

I told you of my own brother who died as a homosexual when he was but 44. But his death was due to alcohol abuse so the doctor informed us all.

My brother was not hated by me nor the family. I never would have stayed a week with him in NY City upon returning from Germany had I hated him or his friends. I also would not have flown to New Orleans to visit him had I hated him.

I am suggesting that the acts by homosexuals in the supreme court will definitely leading to all states no longer banning incest marriages. Let's hope the states keep this to only legal age adults and not involve children,.

 

More than I would like because the ones I have assisted with have been for the life and health of the mother and these were WANTED pregnancies gone horribly tragically and terribly WRONG.

Which is why I insist and always will that those who do not have the medical knowledge of all of the issues should stay the hell out of the debate

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I can tell you for certain that the last abortion where my child was killed had nothing to do with her health. She was just fine.

I was not able to dissuade her either.

I can perhaps blame blood type Rh negative on the first so could accept it was for the health of the former wife.

It troubles me when people accept abortion simply because she took no action and got pregnant. Perhaps she wanted to get pregnant.

It is my belief that those all for abortions have no actual experience.

 

Believe it or not, I won't have a thing to do in any way, shape or fashion on your problem.

You want me to say yes or no?

Your question is a satisfying one to you. I don't happen to like being told a yes or no to such a troubling question.

 

I used to be against abortion myself when I was much younger, but I did some research on the subject when I encountered Operation Rescue in the 80's. Hopefully they have changed their approach since then, but it became clear to me that the members in my area were exactly the type of people who would use guilt and harassment against women who tried to get abortions, and certainly against women who got abortions. In my opinion, the individuals I met were in it for the ego boost they got for "saving a baby." I could not align myself with those people. Any woman with a conscience is likely to have feelings of guilt over an abortion (even when it was because of a rape or serious health risks). We all have to make difficult decisions through life and sometimes there are no good options. I am glad to know you are a person who would comfort a woman who is dealing with that instead of using it against her. She needs to know that there are people who understand.

I agree that a couple (or single woman) who wants a baby should think of it as a child even while it is in the womb because it will help them bond. It might even be possible to influence the development of the nervous system with music, and talking (especially in the last few weeks of pregnancy). Others (out of respect for the parents) should think of it as their unborn child as well. None of that actually makes it, technically, a child. Why not? Because there must be something unique to human beings that allows us to support sentient thought (or soul, or spirit, if you prefer). The thing that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is the complexity of our brain. Until the brain is able to support sentient thought, the unborn fetus is like a clay pot being formed by a potter. If the potter decides this is not the time to complete this pot, the clay goes back into the box to be formed, fired, glazed, and filled later. Then, the vessel can contain what it was intended to hold. An abortion just means a delay for the individual who might otherwise have appeared several months after that particular conception.

 

I was for abortion until I got to my 40s. In my late 70s, I feel I was wrong.

We do have some special cases where the unborn is a high risk to the mother. She may have known prior that she was a terrible candidate to be with child.

But i respect all views. And I believe of this forum, you have the best argument to favor them.

Great job.

 

Thank you. I can see (catching up on the discussion) that you have been through some painful experiences yourself and I respect you for making that journey while retaining your ability to care for others.

 

Wow.

Pathetic.

AA

 

Well, except for women and gays.....

 

YES, YOU should've used some precaution and she wouldn't have gotten pregnant.....

WHY didn't YOU use a condom????? YOU took NO action.....


And YOU have had NO experience with abortion, YOU are not a woman....how could YOU have experience with abortion.....

 

Disclaimer:Quote in post 733 isn't mine.

 

That still doesn't address her baby. Good the creep is in jail. Does she have to deliver a baby?

 

Didn't you claim it is none of your business what others do with their life?

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I don't have any idea. I am not part of that family mess.

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I care for women in my life. As to strangers, that is your job.

 

The right to abortion should be based on, 1. The viability of the fetus, 2 the health implications to the mother.

 

LOL!....Another Anti-Choicer who thinks contraception is ALL a woman's responsibility, who doesn't think men have any responsibility... but then wants to force her to give birth.

 

Yes, and EVERY pregnancy carries the risk of death, and every pregnancy causes permanent and temporary harm to the woman so the health implications are there from the start.


The law is , unnecessarily, based on viability...

The right to an abortion has always been in place, it's inherent in anyone who may get pregnant.....it doesn't have to be based on anything...

 

So, why are you IN the Abortion Forum ??

You don't want to discuss abortion so it does seem odd.......maybe Facebook would be a better alternative??? That's where they talk about their personal lives...