There was Adam and Eve..... and Cain

But if nothing is going to occur that God has not sent, then hasn't God sent Satan and his angels to rebel and corrupt?

 

Yes, directly at His orginal planning.

Indirectly at giving the creature a will.

Quantrill

 

Science is not definite that it was a meteor, science has all kinds of theories, such as the big bang theory notice it is all call theory because science is not 100% sure.

Meteor collision, the big bang etc. are all the effects and the result of God's power in destroying the dinasours age, just like the great flood during Noah's time and the destruction of Sodom and Gamora that science believe was cause by some volcanic eruption.

Lucifer was suppossed to be the second in command or the right hand angel of God to over see the expansion and beautification of earth as a paradise for humans to expand, but what happen was Lucifer decided that he wants to be God's equal or above God, he decided to create giant carnivorous creatures and plants that makes the earth a very dangerous place for other none carnivours creatures, humans can not survive under the dinasour age. That is why the entire dinasours and man eating plants were all wiped out to make way for a new earth suitable for humans to survive and to expand civilization.

No, God did not send Satan, Satan was a created or evolved from Lucifer, Lucifer was created to be the perfect good angel until he decided to be evil.

The free will is one special gift that God bestowed to the angels and humans that God has Himself gave up control on what ever humans or angels decide God will deal with it accordingly and the reason God gave away free will is to demonstrate that He is not greedy, dictatorial or cruel but it is giving away something from Him to humans and angels so that humans and angels will love and worship Him from their own free will and understand, God understand us but we don't understand God.

 

Perhaps you and Quantrill can agree to disagree.

Me, I find both of your tenets to be absolute truth.

 

The Bible is absolute truth.

Quantrill

 

Now, if there was ever any religious absurdity....this has to be at the top of the list.

 

T-Rex refused to bow down to god and worship him, ROFLMFAO

 

I use to believe in that concept " agree to disagree" but I notice that courts don't recognize such concept nor do they make rulings base on that, therefore I have to stand by my the Bible.

Wrong, T-Rex was just a victim of Lucifer, Lucifer put Mr. T-Rex in order to disrupt paradise and hamper's God creation.

That is why up to this date scientist are still puzzle why and how could dinasours around the world suddenly disppeared and why suddenly a new earth emerge, how,how?

 

I know.

Just curious; do you ever say these things aloud to yourself and think about how it sounds?

 

I look at all the documents; science and the Bible and I said aloud, indeed the Bible is the Book of God, that is what makes my faith stronger understanding that science is limited but God is not.

Science is the study of God's power how to become god-like in His image the ability to create, explore and expand civilization base on God given gift to us.

 

Geeee Whizzzzzzzzzzzz, I hope insanity is not communicable.

 

It is quite obvious that you do not ever say any of these things aloud and think what they might sound like. If you did, there is no way you could post them.

 

But why in the world would a God create someone to burn forever...according to the bible he knows BEFORE birth. Or why would he repent for making man (the flood) when he knows past, present, and future?

 

Hell is just God's trash can. The condition and state of those who go to hell is true and real though God has planned it all. Those who are not of God are part of Gods work to benefit those who are of God.

God does not repent in that He changes. But, God does feel. And He did regret making man and the condition of man at the time of the flood.

Quantrill

 

So American Christians were, to your biased way of anti American thinking, the only Christians ever to interpret the bible literally?

If I went on line in Wales just to slander, lie and plague the Welsh that would make me a pretty sick, twisted, petty man wouldn't it? What's your excuse, then?

 

Gee--you are trying to confuse logic and religion, can't be done. The religious "scholars" of Christianity have been trying for 2000 years to come up with answers to such questions and they keep failing. There is ONE and ONE only logical answer to your question...There is not, never has been and never will be any god or gods. That simple sentence answers all the religious questions that have plagued all religions from time immemorial.

 

Sorry, but Americans invented such nonsense in the mid 1800's and the rest of the world leaves it alone, MOST, if not all nations with a predominately christian population look askance and laugh at the right wing fundamental Christians in this land of the free.

 

I am posting it all am I not, because it is sound that is what science is all about understanding God's infinite power. Even the great Isaac Newton understood this to be so.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZBlNrREpaw"]Isaac Newton - Bible Prophecy part 3 - YouTube[/ame]

 

Just because Issac Newton was a religious fruitcake you claim all modern scientists are also?

 

I never claim or said scientist are fruit cake that is what anti Christianity ppl maybe like you claim, I said that scientist are basically trying to learn and discover God's infinite power.

 

Newton was a fruit cake- he believed in alchemy and was a raving religious nut. Yes, he was good at math, yayyyyyy. But to make a claim that because he was a raving lunatic especially about religion, and imply that all scientists are seeking the same things is total nonsense.

I am NOT anti-christian. I am anti-superstition. Islam, Judaism, Shintoism, Hindu, Baal worship, believing in Thor, or Zeus, or Shiva, or Buddhism of any of the tens of thousands of gods and religions that mankind has created is NUTS. As far as I am personally concerned, anyone that cannot accept the reality of the world, that needs the myth of a heaven, hell, Valhalla, Nirvana, etc to get by day to day, has serious mental problems.

I am no more against Christianity than I am against Satanism, Islam and all the rest. I can however understand that some people seek religion for companionship, comradeship, its moral values, the peace that can come from some of the beliefs, gaining customers for ones business, etc. Following a religion for the benefits one can get is fine. But believing in the myths and superstitions of that religion, created by primitive savages many years ago, goes beyond he pall of sanity.

By the way, the concept of an infinite power for any god is just as foolish as the concept of infinite mercy or love attributed to the Christian god. If the Christian god had any mercy at all, there would be no hell, 'nuff said. And if any god had infinite power, then things would always go the way they planed/intended. For instance, making Adam to live in Eden forever and then having to kick him out, does NOT show very much power at all.

 

Actually, it shows how little power Adam (mankind) had to prevent the eviction. Oh... the fallibility of man when it comes to meeting the force and power of one of those 'foolish' imaginative creatures like a supposed 'God'. Yu mek mi laff.

 

LOL, lets see, God mad Adam to dwell in Eden forever, Adam did not dwell in Eden forever, conclusion------------> OOPS, God messed up, he did not make Adam right. ROFLOLOLOLolololmfao.

 

Newton is a nut for believing in religion he is not a nut if he does not believe in religion; Galileo is a nut for believing the world is around and not a nut if he believes the world is flat. Galileo proove that the world is round and that makes him very sane, so Newton proof that there is God that would make him same too.

All scientist are seeking the same thing, knowledege, and how things came to be if there is no God then there is no reason why we need scientist, why we need to continue to seek for answers we can all just live in our caves not to worry about money, work, career, etc.

No heaven or hell, this means no worries, then why all the sufferings.

People seek religion in order to understand why people act in certain ways, why people murder others, torture, etc. while some are so pius, kind, etc. why??? How do we control or over come hatred, greed, vanity etc.

If no such thing as infinite power, then the universe infinite border is limited.

God did not kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden, Adam and Eve kicked themselves out when they listen to Satan. God could have created man with out the free will but He didn't because with out the free will man will not be in God's image. God love humans so much that He created them in His image and gave them the greatest gift of all...FREE WILL, God wants humans to love Him freely, understand Him freely and gave human that godly ability to expand civilization.

 

According to The Book of Adam and Eve that was preserved into our time period only in Arabic... Cain had a seriously hot looking twin sister named Luluwa who was supposed to marry Abel.... and Abel had a less beautiful twin sister named Aklia who was supposed to marry Cain...… but.... you guessed it!!!!


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