This Is What Ignorance Looks Like

I can't speak for every school system in USA, but I bet USA history is taught in most every school system.
Meaning the DoI is part of USA history.

 

Please stop embarrassing yourself. But you have proven me correct.- The kids, or at least you, are ignorant of our founding principles.

Here-

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

If you want to be an American, I recommend you read it.

 

Free wi fi, scanning and photocopying for those who do not have a scanner or need to do things the old fashioned way…….

Libraries do move with the times - our even include “toy lending library” so kids can get access to toys the parents may not be normally able to afford plus they don’t have to worry about emphatic to do with them when the kid grows out of them

 

Aaaahhhhh! The ongoing attack on women from the right! How double dare she be an erudite competent woman! In the eyes of some that cannot be so pretend she is a man.

 

Because ADULT pornography is material of a whole other sort, which most people do recognize, as not appropriate for children.

The other thing you name-- unrestricted "don't ask, don't tell," for kids-- is something I think you'd just made up, which doesn't exist. The slogan you cite, was a policy to not pry into the private sexual affairs of members of the military, as long as any who were gay, kept that hidden. I don't know what you had meant to imply, with this phrase, in this case-- and I don't think I want to know.

Perhaps you would have benefitted, as a child, had your own library had more books on proportionality.

Like from being attacked with assault rifles?

That is not what these books do. Ironically, the information you are using for your reply's argument, does not appear to have come from reading.

What titles are you claiming, presume all readers to be "a sexual player?" The only "sexual" title, the article listed, was by someone named "Jazz," a young transexual who has her own t.v. show, on basic cable. I doubt there is anything too risque, in that book, for any who would be reading it. I am sure it is more about her personal feelings, about her journey. FYI, reading about someone who is different from ourselves, for most of us, does not make us want to emulate the author. It is just valued as a way to glimpse life, through another's perspective.

But how about the removed books, which had been on the role that race has played, in this country? They were nothing new, or controversial. By your argument, those should be fine with you-- or are you going to come up with an additional pretext, to cover those?

 

What are the titles of the books mentioned in the topic post? Until the exact nature of the books in question can be determined, any discussion about whether they should or should not get sued out of the public library is just speculation.

But it's a public library. Why citizens would choose to sue escapes me. They could just defund their library. The public library don't belong to the librarian.

 

You are quite wrong about my "painting" anything. I am simply recounting facts. It is only the residents & politicians themselves, who consider closing their library a preferable option, who are the source of any stench.

 

I too am recounting facts. The leftists have removed The Declaration of Independence from the public school curriculum. The didn't ban it no, they just took it out of the classroom and stuck it under the short leg of the school librarian's desk...

 

I think you must be mistaken. If anything, these books, originally, were on conservatives' lists of libri ingratum. I take it you are here referring to the much more recent desire of some, to eliminate the "n" word, from those texts. Though I am not among those who feel this way, it is a far different thing, than burning the book, as you mischaracterize it.

 

Well here is a link to an article about a Seattle school that dropped TKMB last year. Are the Seattle schools run by conservatives? I don't think so.

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/1...concerns-as-wave-of-book-challenges-continues

Here is an article about banning Huck Finn from 2017. -

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/banned-adventures-huckleberry-finn/

Not conservatives.

 

Seems to me, you really don't know what you're talking about, so you are just spouting some unsupportable, conspiracy theory.

But, hey, you know the first 7 words of the Declaration of Independence, so that's enough to know-- good for you.



BTW-- to send someone an alert of being mentioned in a post, you have to begin the person's name with the @ symbol, no space in between (so @DEFinning or @Green Man ). You don't have to fully spell it out, before you should see a box with the full name, below it. In my case, only "@def" is required; for you, "@gre" yields 6 choices, with you on top of the heap. As more letters are added, the choices get winnowed.

 

This is not a post from someone familiar with the Declaration of Independence. -

They might have been unaware of its existence, which I pointed to. Hopefully this person takes the time to discover and learn about the founding principles of this once Great Nation. I think it might be our only chance, you know, E Pluribus Unum.

 

Yet based on the actions of a few in a small town in Texas you act like this represents the entire Republican party.

 

You tell me what that was swinging in between her legs in those loose white linen pants on the Ellen DeGeneres show....

I don't think a vagina with the worst sort of prolapse could swing back and forth like that

 

You would think something like that would be a fundamental part of history and social studies classes taught to children in this country. I bet the average sixth grader doesn't even know what the Constitution of the United States of America is much less can they name a single amendment

 

Thanks for the article-- but did you read beyond the title? Seattle did NOT ban To Kill A Mockingbird, nor did they remove it from their library shelves. It was only removed from the 9th grade required reading list. Nevertheless, teachers are still free, if they choose to, teach this text.

Here is your article

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A Seattle-area school board voted to remove “To Kill a Mockingbird” from student reading lists this week, just days before news surfaced that a Tennessee district had, earlier this month, banned the Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel about the holocaust, “Maus,” from its curriculum.

The actions are part of a rising wave of efforts across the country to remove books from libraries and student reading lists in response to complaints and criticisms from parent groups and other organizations.

That includes the recent decision by Utah’s Canyons School District to remove at least nine book titles from libraries at four high schools in the district — all in response to an email from a parent who expressed concerns about the titles she said she learned about through social media videos.

When that mockingbird don’t sing
According to the Seattle Times, the Mukilteo School Board voted unanimously Monday night to remove Harper Lee’s “To Kill a Mockingbird” from the required reading list for ninth graders while still allowing for teachers to choose to teach the classic novel to students.
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When, in the course of Forum events, one links an article, in support of one's argument, it is ever advisable to first read said article.

 

Don't get so excited. Read the post above. I said they dropped it, I did not say they banned it.

Much like the leftists did not ban the Declaration of Independence, they just dropped it.

They ignore it. And that's what ignorance looks like.

 

Trump's 3rd wife was the last first lady

 

you miss the porn, the women on woman pictures, etc...

 

A couple of notes: first, come on now, thin-skin, you very well know that it is standard practice, among the Righties of our board, including yourself, to extrapolate anything done by a Democratic body-- and sometimes merely by an individual-- to apply to Democrats or Progressives, writ large, or to the Left, en masse. So, what's good for the goose, right?

But actually, if you read more carefully, I do not make such a categorical statement, as that this "represents the entire Republican Party." In fact, I make my statements about Republicans contingent upon the precipitating comments of some Republican member. I will show you:


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So don't be taken in by Republican modesty, when they try to tell you that it is the Left, who are the masters of censorship. Nor should we be fooled by the mere claims, echoed about, that it is on the Right, where we find the true supporters of freedom of speech. As the judge's order had noted, "the First Amendment prohibits the removal of books from libraries based on either viewpoint or content discrimination."
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So, my actual words, are to only not believe any person on the Right, when they're talking crap about the Left being all about censorship, and purporting themselves to be so much more the champions of free speech, than Democrats (as you all, are wont to do).

I could add to my reply, that this single instance of book banning is a far cry from the only basis of censorship, I would have, if I wished to take up the argument, which you falsely credit me as making. But hopefully, 'nough said.

 

"Free Speech", does free speech include shouting down or attacking University guest speakers?

Because I hear a lot of that from the leftists.

They are probably acting that way because they cant believe the principles in the Declaration of Independence. They probably can't believe it because they are not aware of its existence(public schools don't teach it) Or, maybe they just never read it despite being aware.

Just in case, here's that link to the text of the Declaration again.-

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

Go ahead and read it. I'd love to have someone to discuss it with.

 

(I am just getting to this post now, as you sent no alert, as by quoting me, or addressing my name, w/ the @ prefix).

Most sources do not specifically list all the titles, but mention the categories of "race," & "LGBTQ." I heard a report, which mentioned "books on farts," so included that, also, in the OP. If you had read the short, linked article, you would have seen that it listed 3 specific titles. I left that paragraph out of my OP snip, because it is preferred we limit how much of an article, we directly snip. I did include those titles later on the first page, however, in post #9 (at the bottom right of each post, though you will probably need to use the horizontal "landscape" view, if you are reading on your phone).

Below, is a small snip from my Opening Post, followed by the paragraph in post #9, in which I list the 3 titles; I recommend that entire post be read, btw, if you are interested in a more full-throated argument, from me. The OP was more about laying out the story, in this thread, than prosecuting an argument. Whereas post #9, was responding to someone else's argument. At bottom, I also snipped a paragraph from post #55, on this page (pg. 3), in which I refer again to the book, written by the young transgender person.

 

In your article, which you think of as an indictment against "Leftists," because a Seattle area school decided to not straightjacket its teachers into needing to use that one particular text-- though it is, certainly, a classic, yet there are also other worthwhile books to be taught; perhaps ones that a person is less likely to come across on their own, anyway, than TKAM-- schools in "Rightist" areas are also cited, as being much more censorial: Utah Canyon Schools removed 9 titles from the shelves of 4 schools; and Tennessee schools banned a Pulitzer-prize winning graphic novel, about the Holocaust. So it is a mystery, why you sound as if you think you are making a winning argument. News flash-- you are not.

 

I'm glad you feel that way. Some people let the "n" word take hold of them. It's like they are possessed. It controls them.

 

Wrong. This article does not point specifically to "leftists," but talks about this book's long history of negative reactions, from librarians in Mississippi-- not Liberals-- who did not like the vernacular "backward talk," to an objection to it, lodged by the NAACP, for its over 200 uses of a particular word.

And as I'd earlier shown, your link about To Kill A Mockingbird, was hardly even a knock on those Seattle area schools, but the article included information that reflected far worse on schools in the Conservative States of Utah & Tennessee.
So that entire post of yours, was a bust.