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Librarians from Mississippi not liberals.

I'm not seeing that in the article. Can you quote it?

I can see the part where the NAACP got all upset about it in the 50's.

 

Sorry, I'd misspoken: it said librarians in Missouri, not Mississippi but, still, not an especially Left-leaning place, as your links were billed as condemning. My interjecting "not liberals," had been meant as an echo of your own side remark, "not conservatives," in your post, which I'd quoted.

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Here is an article about banning Huck Finn from 2017. -

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/banned-adventures-huckleberry-finn/

Not conservatives.


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Many of the early challenges to Adventures of Huckleberry Finn came from white people, librarians, who did not like the language Twain used. The librarians at the time in Missouri took umbrage at the use of “backwards talking.” They thought that he was speaking to a lower class of folks. They thought the language was just too rough. They didn’t take umbrage at his using racial slurs; rather it was the dialect...
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So what is your point?

Edit, not about me. About the topic.

 

One of the most telling aspects of this forum is seeing what people think it is 'clever' to post. This almost always involves repeating something someone smarter (an impossibly low bar) posted somewhere else.

 

Oh dear, yet another person caught not reading the links they post. Always seems to be the same sort of people.

 

Yet another cheerleader poster that can't read.

I claimed the school dropped the book.

Read again-

Then DEFinning had an orgasm because he thought I said banned.

I was going to pass it off as DEFinning just having misread, but then some cheerleader had to come along and do a little jig and courtesy. Perhaps you're just putting into practice the old leftist saw, " Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth".

 

You would think that logic is a guiding light.

 

@cd8ed repubs, believing only one book is necessary, remind me of caliph omar's orders at the library of alexandria (640 ad) ......

"they will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous." omar

 

No, you just don't understand.

The more important question is: what had been your point? Clearly, it had been to at least give the impression that it is the Left, not the Right, who are the the ones cancelling free speech, or however you want to phrase it. And neither of your links did that: the link on Huck Finn, did not single out Liberals; and the link on a Seattle area school "dropping" To kill A Mockingbird from its list of mandatory books, but leaving it as an option, contained stories of schools in conservative areas actually banning books, and removing books from their library shelves. So my point, was that your attempted point, was an utter fail.

 

So, you entirely ignored the fact that you already support both book banning and censorship via the Fascist relationship between government and social media. And yet, you'd still try to scold me? Really? I made the case that if a public library cannot or will not serve the public interest, the library itself isn't a sacred cow. Yes, citizens can, and should exercise their oversight on services that frankly underperform or don't perform at all. And removing funding from a library, using your own examples, can take on philanthropy, and maintain themselves off of the public dime.

 

You completely ignore all of my points to parrot the same tired platitude.

Why can't the books just be moved out of the children's section yet remain accessible to adults?

Simple question?

 

Wokeness is rampant everywhere. On TV yesterday was a video of public school administrators in our red state discussing how to hide the fact that they teach CRT against public sentiment. If it is good then why do they have to hide it? The answer is that it is not good for children and teens.

 

I have no clue what authority a federal judge has to tell a local library what books they must have on the shelves. On the other hand I fully understand the authority of county commissioners to fund or not fund a county library. Whether their rationale is smart or stupid does not make any difference.

 

"cancel culture" is such a conservative value, from the hollywood black list to the dixie chicks, that this attempt to label liberals as the "real nazi censors" is laughable.

 

Who decides what is true history and what is myth?

It's a political question, hence The culture wars.

 

So why didn't the right do that?

 

Funny thing about leftist- seems they are always actively doing exactly what they accuse the right of doing.

Always.

 

Because I told them not to.....
Don't you know this little town that's a speck on a map in Texas went around and asked every conservatives permission?

 

And that conspiracy theory-- or at least an extremely speculative, & no doubt highly colored with personal bias, guess-- which you accept at face value as truth, is yet allowable in our society for one reason alone: freedom of speech. I may find the accusations of those trash talking administrators, highly objectionable, but I am not calling for them to be shut away... because that is not the American way.

Why can you not see that censoring what books are available in a public library, is diametrically opposed to freedom of speech? The reality, is that in order to preserve one's own freedom to openly speak one's mind (even when some will not like what one has to say), requires that person to be equally tolerant and supportive of others' rights to express ideas, even when we may be utterly opposed to them. Instead of facing this compromise, I am hearing people throw out ridiculously fabricated arguments, like that the books that had been on the shelves of the children's library had been the equivalent of adult pornography, or that they were some sort of guides to induct children into being victims of pedophilia, or to make them change their sex, or make them believe that all white people are evil, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Wake up!

The security blanket of such fantasies, clung onto this tightly, will only lead to our freedom's asphyxiation.

 

there are a lot of people who don't know the first 7 words of the DCI. More importantly, you have politicians who think the DCI is law in the United States. It is not. And the Supreme Court has been consistent on that part. The Supreme Court may use the DCI to rule on law for instance as background, but it is not cited as a precedent or anything else legally. The DCI was the reason why we broke away from the crown after the Stamp Act, the Intolerable Acts, and so forth. And it was on July 4th why we celebrate our independence even though we did not officially win it until after the Battle of Yorktown in 1781.

I am not a proponent of the 1619 Project, but I am also not a proponent of the Trump/Conservative initiative either. Both get history wrong, to a great extent and the Trump/Florida/Conservative Patriot Initiative, it gets it more wrong while teaching more about myths of our history than true reality. History is complex. We had some founding fathers who did not own slaves. And we had founding fathers who did own slaves. We had founding fathers of various degrees of faith, including one certified "atheist" in the name of Thomas Payne. And some conservatives think Thomas Jefferson was an atheist. However, all of the founding fathers used secular principles, namely the Enlightenment Philosophy, to state that it is not the King or Monarch that grants the rights, but each individual man through the government they have formed.

 

I think you read it, but I don't think you understand it. Again, you have not proven one damn thing. However, Daisyair is correct. It is taught in every school in the United States. The meaning is more important than the memorization of the actual document.

It is like this, From the actual poem, Charge of the Light Brigade, "Half a league,1 half a league, Half a league onward, All in the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. 5 ‘Forward, the Light Brigade! Charge for the guns!’ he said: Into the valley of Death Rode the six hundred." And as one commentator that day, French General Pierre Bosquet who commented, It is magnificent, but it is not war.

 

Technically no. But does it have to be a university event. How about shouting "You lie" during a Presidential State of the Union Address or the other antics that conservatives do when a Democrat speaks, or vice versa? We have people talking a foreign language, at a restaurant, and are verbally assulted for doing so with comments like "you should go back to your country where you belong" or "Why don't you speak English?"

You try to make this about one party, and yet, the conservative party is just as bad, if not worse. We had a peaceful protest in Nashville. We had three members of the state legislature join them in the heat of the moment, And yet, the state legislature voted to expel them for doing that, trying to make the civil rights protest with words like "insurrection," "riot," or worse.

 

The funnier thing, about many on the Right-- at least a significant percentage of those who post here-- is that they consistently lodge this accusation, in lieu of a counter argument, and almost always-- as you did, in this thread-- do so without being able to prove their charge.

 

And what specifically about the Declaration of Independence is it that you presume me to not understand, Alwayssa?

 

I know.

What is it you suspect that I do not understand?