Today, 135 years since the birth of Joseph Stalin.

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  1. Shoits

    Shoits Member

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    All so smart, I rust. You put yourself in the place of Joseph Dzhugashvili. Think about how to manage a broken country, which can only be implemented in an iron fist. Russia has always been a monarchy, and in the period of the USSR monarchy remained. Stalin spent his policy as conducted in those terms, and those means were. Now its rinsing. As they say "On the dead either good or nothing".
     
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    For who needs to destroy the whole people without chances of possible revival, have to destroy first of all his memory, having broken perception of world around and to make impossible adoption of the correct decisions by the victim. For this reason all invaders quickly forbid teaching national history or allow its teaching in only in the distorted look.http://pobeda1945-art.ru/gal5/books/biblio_14/Main.htm

    "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." Goebbels http://spv098.moole.ru/11660-kakovy-masshtaby-stalinskikh-repressijj.html

    Numbers of million scale were chosen by falsifiers not incidentally. They not only shock the person, causing strong emotions, but also disconnect ability to criticality, the victim of manipulation isn't able to believe that it is possible to lie SO. Still fascist promotion widely used it. Other reason for which it was possible, is based that for the average person everything that exceeds about hundred thousand, belongs to category "much" and if tell that hundred million were lost, he can quite believe in it because in everyday life it doesn't operate with large numbers.

    In works of most of authors the divergence with original statistics never goes down but repeated it and exaggeration. The impression is made for readers they compete among themselves in striking with figures, so to speak, astronomically numbers."http://scepsis.net/authors/id_149.html

    PS: According to the estimates of historians, about 600-700 thousand people were shot. (approximately in 10 years)
    Anyway American and European democracy has more blood than Stalinism - at least because of colonial wars, the given fascist modes in Latin America and complicity to nazis. The democracy is so democratic that in Germany after war at high positions the former nazis continued to sit.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stalin should have been shot dead when he was 18.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Versus you who venerates a monster and refuses to acknowledge his crimes.
     
  5. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    What kind of crimes do you say? Can you prove it? Or stupid propoganda, as usual?
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    next you'll tell us Hitler didn't commit any crimes.

    oh...right...you already have.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    How Come? Or sectarians ready to kill anyone if so tells the "boss"? You do not need proof.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because he was one of the world's greatest murderers and tyrants.

    just ask any honest person in Russia or Eastern Europe.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Hitler - a criminal. This was proved in Nuremberg. I wonder why you accuse Stalin? Without any evidence. So "Dark Lord" tells you?

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    But you have no evidence? I understand you correctly?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    coming from the guy who says the Holocaust didn't happen, I'm not surprised you also deny Stalin's crimes.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I posted several of the well-documented crimes earlier. Even his own repugnant party acknowledged the terror he brought. The fact that you ignore his crimes shows either your stupidity/ignorance or your indifference to his crimes. Pull your head out of his ass and breathe some fresh air.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    But we're not talking about me. Is not it? I deny unproven crimes. Just like now. You can prove your accusations?

    P/S:
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
     
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    This is your patented method. But why you are not using it? Judging by your comments, you never breathe fresh air.

    It was funny .... Where posted several...? Who was horrified...? You write nonsense not tired? "Pull your head out of his ass and breathe some fresh air." I quote you correctly?
     

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