Trans teen commits suicide due to transphobic parents

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I was not talking about cutting off genitals. Srs isn't the removal of genitals it's the reshaping of them.

    This has nothing to do with what I said. It's just self aggrandizing drivel

    So does vasectomy. So that objection is not really valid.

    Whatever.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No none cure exists, that's proof enough. I didn't make it up.

    Leprechauns and werewolves don't exist, do I have to prove that too?
     
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    Your claim exactly is healthcare professionals know there isn't such a thing as a cure. Prove this is the position of healthcare professionals. That is your claim. I don't have to disprove what you assert or it's true. You made a fact statement about healthcare professionals' opinion. Prove it.
     
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    Do you know what SRS means and what is involved? The testicles in fact are "cut off" as is most of the scrotum and only really cheap SRS inverts the penis. Legitimate SRS uses a section of the colon to make a vagina and only a strip to the underside of penis tip is preserved for sensation. Generally the prostate is left intact and facilitated, though some also have it removed.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    There aren't any cures. Healthcare professionals don't practice make believe cures.

    Doesn't matter, you can't anyway.
    The non-existence of such cures is proof enough. I feel confident also saying that medical professionals don't think there is a cure for being a leprechaun. Do i have to prove that claim also?

    I can claim flying purple unicorns don't exist. I don't have to prove it. lack of evidence is proof enough.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    All for cosmetic purposes.
     
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    "Part of removing stigma is about choosing the right words. Replacing “disorder” with “dysphoria” in the
    diagnostic label is not only more appropriate and consistent with familiar clinical sexology terminology,
    it also removes the connotation that the patient is “disordered.” "
    http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Gender Dysphoria Fact Sheet.pdf

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    It's not the Dysphoria that's causing the suicide rates. It's the depression, anxiety etc. that goes along with being dysphoric.
     
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    Not sure of your point. They changed the name so transgenders can feel better about themselves. Same thing they did with homosexuality. Same thing theyve begun to do with pedophillia.
     
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    You need to make your arguments to the APA and the NHS who present gender reassignment surgery as a treatment for the mental illness.

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    They are removed to stop them from producing testosterone.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    No, they are in agreement with me. That is actually where I heard that from.



    For cosmetic reasons, yes, I know.
     
  11. JakeJ

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    I got it, to YOU gender identity is singularly cosmetic. I suppose you could try to find a more shallow view of people, but it'd be hard to do.

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    The reason transsexuals undergo hormone therapy is for cosmetic reasons? As I stated, you either know nothing of this topic or are now just trolling this thread.

    Then again, since the Supreme Court decision you may notice that few people care about these topics anymore.
     
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    Yes it's cosmetic. It's funny you call it shallow that's what I think of people that view things that are merely skin deep as an inner core of their being.

    I see gender much like race. It's an artificial construct created by social conditioning.


    Yes. A man can embrace his femininity without taking hormones.
    The old "agree with me or you are stupid" argument. Not really worth more address than this.

    The amount of publicity Caitlyn Jenner received must of just been about her hair.
     
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    Your baseless denials are meaningless. Ive already produced the evidence from the NHS

    Treating gender dysphoria
    http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dysphoria/Pages/Treatment.aspx

    And here is from the APA

    When it comes to access to care, many of the treatment options for this condition include counseling, cross-sex hormones, gender reassignment surgery, and social and legal transition to the desired gender. To get insurance coverage for the medical treatments, individuals need a diagnosis.
    http://www.dsm5.org/documents/gender dysphoria fact sheet.pdf

    From the looks of your avatar, you are probably too close, too emotionally invested in the topic to make a rational contribution to the discussion. No amount of facts can interupt your ideology. .
     
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    Poor understanding and misinterpretation of ideas isn't evidence.

    No amount of uneducated blather can remove knowledge. I have studied this. You just cherry picked a search engine.
     
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    Isnt it revealing how your state of ignorance continues even though youve studied the topic. Like I said you are all ideology, the facts be damned. And I didnt misinterpret anything. I QUOTED the NHS and the APA, while you have nothing other than the silly thoughts bouncing around in your own head to support your claims. Too close, too emotionally invested in the topic to make a rational contribution to the discussion.
     
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    Unfortunately, you are not the only person who believes all reality is whatever the media says it is, and therefore you believe it is the Kardasian publicity campaigns that defined all of society and everyone's perspective.

    If fact, the number of members showing ANY interest in LGTB topics has fallen significantly, as has even media coverage of such topics. The media had an agenda and it was largely accomplished. When it is presented to Congress to add LGTBs to the list of protected classes of people in terms of discrimination laws the media will crank it back up again. Most people are mindless sheeple for which the media can tell them what to think, not think, what matters, what doesn't, and overall control the peasants.

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    The search for new words is largely on the profit motive. Create a new word or new theory and the person can write a book, do lectures and obtain professional or academic fame.
     
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    You really don't know much about any of this and it appears you have had a very sheltered, narrow history - plus I gather you are quite young. Men do not have their testicles removed for the goal of becoming a eunuch for cosmetic reasons. Google "eunuch" for the definition.
     
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    Her position is absurd. That all the counseling, hormone treatments and surgery aren't considered by the medical profession as "treatment" for gender dysphoria. Even when shown -

    and

    Having said that, it is my unprofessional opinion that all the "treatments" don't treat (*)(*)(*)(*). It is the medical profession that SELLS the procedures as treatment.
     
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    People who don't agree with you all must just be stupid. If only I was Dixon and knew everything in the world.
    Yes you did.

    You don't have enough education to really know what you are talking about. Quoting the NHS and the APA isn't really an argument.
     
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    Make an argument if you can but ad hominem doesn't really deserve more response than this.

    Sometimes when people fail to make their point they only can lash out.

    And?

    The media's agenda is to get ratings, sell news papers and gain more audience. A few months ago it was lgbt rights. Last month it was Donald trump. Now it seems like they are talking a lot about bacon causing cancer. They'll talk about hurricanes, elections, gay football players, and swine flu until they lose their audience than they will change. It's fickle.
     
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    Yeah, the old "anybody that disagrees with me is stupid" tactic.

    That's just a waste of time. When you are finished stumbling over your own inability to accept that you don't know everything, than the debate can resume. But if you continue to post (*)(*)(*)(*) like this I'm just going to mock you.

    True, however, men who want their genitals to look like women's genitals do.
    I am not really talking about such things so there would be no point.
     
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    Medical profession? This is why you don't understand. I didn't discuss anything regarding medicine or the medical profession. My discussion was about the behavioral sciences and cosmetic surgery.
     
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    Insults are your thing, you post them often when you have no response.

    Wanting to look like women's genitals does not equate to SRS is ONLY cosmetic surgery.
     
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    Like what?

    Yeah it does.
     
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    Quoting the APA and NHS isnt misinterpreting the APA and NHS
     

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