Transgender girl's family sues private school for "emotional distress"

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  1. ellesdee

    ellesdee Well-Known Member

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    It seems the parents' rules differ from those you would impose, which of course, is their right.

    As for the school, any rule banning teachers from intervening during bullying and harassment can't be tolerated. That will be a matter for the court to sort out.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm going to call BS on the parents accusation that the school "banned" teachers from intervening in bullying and harrassment of this child. That doesn't even sound believable.

    Parents making decisions for an 8 year old child has nothing to do with rules differing. In what world does an 8 year old make their own decisions on what they wear, or even what gender they choose to identify as. Most 8 year olds don't know what gender even means. The "distress" started a year ago, at age 7. The parents don't even realize the distress is their own doing.
     
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    No I didn't try again.

    What about the other students being protected from having to pretend boys are girls and girls are boys and screwing up their little heads filled with mush?
     
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    All parents are different in how they treat their children. My child knew the all about gender extremely early. We didn't see any reason not to discuss the topic with him. My wife's tendency to walk around the house nude kind of forced the issue.

    He also knew about marijuana very early because I use it to help with my cancer treatments.

    Not to get off-topic, hypothetically assuming you have kids, I'm sure both of us have policies concerning them that would shock, or at least surprise, the other.

    I can recall my cousin in the 80s knew all about gender before he was in preschool, and my aunt and uncle were hardcore Catholics.

    Everybody's different.
     
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    I'm not sure they were actually forced to do so in this case.
     
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    I'd also imagine some of those kids wouldn't mind the pretending.

    I teach high school in a very conservative town, and I'd say, from class discussions, that maybe half or so would be comfortable with such pretending, according to their own comments. These are almost universally Trump-loving, climate change denying, illegal immigrant hating kids, yet 50/50 or so are comfortable with transgenders.

    Kids these days, right?
     
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    Of course not. But they're being forced into a situation which is deeply problematic (on many levels) and the school will be forced to force them, if this suit succeeds.

    In effect, because one set of posturing hipster parents want to display their Awesome Compassion and Nowness (using their 8 year as the tool), 100 other kids are compromised horribly.
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, buy why would you even be asking this question in the first place?
     
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    It absolutely is. I'm pretty sure there's a component of Munchausens-by-Proxy involved. In other words, if it were up to me to diagnose these people (parents of 'transgender' kids), it would definitely be M-b-P. They would have their kids removed from their care immediately, and put into treatment to try to ameliorate any damage already done by the parents.

    If anyone here doesn't know what M-b-P is, look it up. Essentially, it's parental or carer induced injury or disease, inflicted on those in their care, as a means of gaining attention.
     
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    Exactly. It's entirely parent-driven.

    These people should be jailed.
     
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    My kids wanted to eat ice-cream for breakfast and run on the highway when they were little.
     
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    We're required to teach current events. We discussed two articles related to transgender bathroom use, one with a supportive slant and one against the idea.
     
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    This, to the power of 10.
     
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    Rightyo, thanks.
     
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    I didn't read anything specific from this article that showed that the students were being forced to pretend the kid was the opposite gender.
     
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    Where the hell do you teach high school? This sounds bizarre! Current events should be happenings around the country/world, not what one thinks of transgenders.
     
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    Then you should read the article. That's what the entire suit is about.
     
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    What are the chances the kids are going to be compelled to call him a girl, and play along? That's 'force', in the context of school rules and discipline.
     
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    Somewhere floating around in my family is a picture of me when I was around this kid's age where I was wearing my mother's wedding dress and carrying one of her purses. Does that make me a tranny?
     
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    I let the students choose the topics, and I'll search for articles offering differing perspectives on it for discussion, unless they've already got some good ones. I'm talking about juniors and seniors.

    I've never worked at a school that didn't require teaching current events; that's pretty standard.
     
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    What is the name of the class? I've never heard of this.
     
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    If anything, after reading the article, I'd first assume the students weren't being forced to play along. I can't answer your question based on what I know from the article.
     
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    I teach English.

    To be fair, I think the History department ought to cover Current Events, but for some reason, they put it on the English department.
     
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    I have never heard of an English teacher discussing transgenderism in English class. In my son's high schools, English class in Jr. and Sr years was reserved for literature and grammar, not debating sexual preferences or gender identities.
     
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    You got in before the edit, but like I said, I personally think the History department ought to teach Current Events, but for some reason, they put it on the English department.

    I give the students the opportunity to choose the topics because admins do like student-driven education these days. The students do like the controversial stuff.
     
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