Trump leans into voter fraud playbook, preparing to cry foul if he loses expected Biden rematch

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Oh do you have evidence of voter fraud? Did trump miss something you didn't?
     
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    How do you feel about the handful of posters around here who claimed that they are not Democrats but yet they always argue on the side of Democrats?
     
  3. Hey Now

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    Are you now trying to make the OP about me? ;) This is like a trifactor of failed strawmen.
    The OP asks a question? Try answering it.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    OP is about Trump not claiming voter fraud. Do you have evidence that he erred in not doing so?
     
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    Did you read the OP or are you denying that Trump only claims fraud when he loses (WITHOUT EVIDENCE) that can pass a court muster?
     
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    I think the issue that OYN was addressing was you putting out personal invective rather than addressing the topic .. perhaps thinking that name calling is an argument for something .. or some such thing .. so what was being addressed was you not addressing the OP .. which is in fact addressing the OP .. so your wrong on that front in addition to the belief that personal invective and deflection is a valid argument being also wrong.

    Can you not see the Prog Blue Cancel Crew running around crying "Russia Russia Russia" should Trump manage a victory ? - in a vile attempt to mess with electoral process.

    Funny that while running around claiming Russia was meddling with our electoral process .. Old Kankles herself .. along with the DNC was meddling with our electoral process .. the dirty deeds done to Bernie.

    Tell you one thing .. Gonna be entertaining if one is into Splat Movies.
     
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    Irony Alert, still, why is their only voter fraud when Trump loses? Try that one ;).
    Simple question, no?
     
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    Why didnt DNC claim russian interference in joes NH victory? If you can solve that, you can solve this thread too.
     
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    Start a thread, this OP asks a simple question, why does Trump only whine about voter fraud when he loses?
     
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    and you and the left cried Russian Interference when you lost and divided this country for 3 years because of it. Both Trump and your side were pathetic in these claims but to only point the finger one way is beyond simplistic and foolish.
     
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    Why do you think there is Voter fraud only when Trump Loses ? That is the simple question needs be answered in your assumed premise fallacy ?

    "Try that one :) "
     
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    That's a different topic, start a thread. This thread asks a simply question, why does Trump only whine about stolen elections when he loses? It's not a complicated question to focus on or answer, is it?
     
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    What voter fraud took place that trump should have "whined" about?
     
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    You still can't answer the question, you are still deflecting. The OP asks, why does trump ONLY cry voter fraud when he loses? Try that one which is the thread topic? :)
     
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    Start a thread, this thread asks a specific question which you can't apparently address. Trump cried "voter fraud" and had ZERO evidence that could withstand the scrutiny of a court of law when he lost.
     
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    He did? Trump won both primary elections, so i don't know what you are talking about. Also this thread is about trump not claiming voter fraud, but now you claim he did? Link in OP says he didn't claim voter fraud in victory .
     
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    But you still can't address the OP, why does when Trump loses, he cries voter fraud but not when he wins? And why does his support simply echo that behavior?
     
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    Still addressing the OP. Trump won both primary elections, so i don't know what you are talking about. Also this thread is about trump not claiming voter fraud, but now you claim he did? Link in OP says he didn't claim voter fraud in victory .
     
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    Hahahaha, I take it you are committed to running away for this actual OP factual observation which was formed into a relevant question: "Why does Trump only cry voter fraud when he loses"? IOWs, why does he cry wolf and then it's echoed by his base?
     
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    Do you have evidence voter fraud took place in the primaries that trump should be concerned about?
     
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    Of course, it's not a concern for Biden fans, because he gained office. I don't think the question of how bothers them at all; they are willing to accept more crap than a sewage plant.
    I'd bet that if Trump wins, he will be pushing a system for nationwide vote integrity. Voter fraud by unscrupulous politicians isn't new, it's just been expanded to new levels.
    Saying it doesn't exist is extremely naive. It's a matter of degree and severity. Most of the time, it's probably not changed outcomes- but because it is always done covertly, we really don't know.
    Lots of people protect the system from review and processes to insure it's integrity by calling those who want it to be secure- Conspiracy theorists, Maga extremists, racists, etc, etc.
    Wrap yourself in the flag or others symbols, then say- "how dare you question a man of the cloth." In other words, the perpetrator invariably feigns offense as a defense, followed by rants of denial.

    A genuinely legitimate vote serves the best interests of the nation, regardless of politics. It's critical to earning the trust of the people, and their will to accept the result as the voice of the people. Voting is a process attempting to bring the choices of many millions of people from an entire nation to one summary. The complexity of that process offers unlimited opportunities to corrupt it, and the potential to gain power or profit unlimited motivations to do it. Anyone who wants the process to be fast and loose is invariably planning to do take advantage of that.

    It's a concern to the victims of it, and brushed off by the beneficiaries of it. But to people to understand the quality of all our lives is highly dependent on the integrity of government- it's always a concern because it's degrading the viability of our nation, our democracy, our freedom- right now. As the standards of integrity of the people are eroded by the promotions of hate and hostility- the number of people who understand that decreases, and the level of corruption increases. That's a vector, a direction, a path we should never be on- but we all are. Unfortunately, we are not all concerned about it.
     
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    Same deflection again? So, did Trump have evidence when he lost and whined wolf? See how that works? He only whines when he loses and then it was stolen.
     
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    The obvious answer is - he didn’t claim voter fraud because
    1. there was no meaningful voter fraud and
    2. he won.

    Compare that with the elections in which he HAS claimed voter fraud:
    1. there was no meaningful voter fraud and
    2. he lost
     
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    He didnt lose, he's 2-0 in the primaries. What on earth are you talking about?
     
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    There has never been meaningful voter fraud in any election he has contested. That’s the point.
    Iowa and NH were no different than 2020.

    So this repeats his pattern. Win and he doesn’t complain, lose and he does complain.
     

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