Trump leans into voter fraud playbook, preparing to cry foul if he loses expected Biden rematch

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    So you guys want him to complain about something that didn't happen? That's pretty strange.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    You just said no voter fraud took place in primaries. Why do you want him to complain about something that didnt happen?
     
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    That's the point of the OP, bravo, you've arrived full circle!
     
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    'Trump has a long history of crying foul in contests he doesn't win, including previously saying that the "Emmys are all politics" after his reality TV show, "The Apprentice," never won an award. He also labeled then-President Barack Obama's 2012 reelection "a total sham."

    He leaned on that same tactic in 2016 during the GOP primaries, including the Iowa and Colorado caucuses, which he lost to Cruz.'

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim...aims-republican-politicians/story?id=89168408
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Then why did you say he lost?
     
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    I don’t. It continues his pattern of complaining when he loses, but not when he wins. It demonstrates his double standard.
     
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    Trumps so transparent yet his devotees fall for his pathetic bullshit time and time again.

    '2012 general election'

    'On election night in 2012, when President Barack Obama was reelected, Trump said that the election was a "total sham" and a "travesty," while also making the claim that the United States is "not a democracy" after Obama secured his victory.

    Trump even wrote on Twitter, "We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...tions-rigged-doesnt-results/story?id=74126926
     
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    Link me to this claim of yours and see post#54, it's the topic.
     
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    He's 2-0 in the primary elections. Are their hidden primaries he lost that the general public doesn't know about, and just you do?
     
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    He did, he claimed it in 2016. Claimed he really won the popular vote.
     
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    When is the last time he lost? In 2020, cried wolf and is still crying wolf, no evidence and his base echoed it. So, per the OP, why does he only cry wolf when he clearly loses? And, see post #60 for added context:)
     
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    Wait I thought you wanted to stick to the thread topic about him not claiming fraud in the primary elections? Shouldn't you make a separate thread if you want to talk about the 2020 elections, as you implored others to do?
     
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    This really is as desperate as a strawman can be. Still afraid to answer the OP question? Why does Trump claim stolen election when he clearly loses? Tough one ;)
     
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    But the thread topic is why isn't Trump claiming voter fraud in the primaries, but yet everyone in this thread has acknowledged they don't have any evidence of such.
     
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    And you still can't answer that question posed by the OP but continue to deflect.
     
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    Of course!
     
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    OP says he will cry foul if he loses to Biden in November. I don't have a crystal ball, I can't look into the future.
     
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    But you are able to learn from the recent past no?!
     
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    **Awaits this same style of post being directed towards Joe Biden, who has recently claimed that McAuliffe is the "real governor" of Virginia.

    Is Joe Biden an "election denier"? Where are all the outcries towards BIDEN for being an "election denier"?? I'm waiting...

    :popcorn:
     
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    To be able to tell people the future? No, if I could tell the future I would win the lotto each year. What a strange question and strange thread premise.
     
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    OK, with that "logic", it might be considered a safe space! :) Enjoy ;)!
     
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    The very best way to address this would be to standardize the voting systems such that widespread voter fraud is impossible and implausible. This would necessarily require every vote cast be auditable back to the voter who cast it, but other measures could be taken to minimize opportunity for shenanigans.

    As an example: In the discrepancy between votes cast, and registered voters is an avenue to fraud. Similarly, in the discrepancy between eligible voters and registered voters is another avenue to fraud. The inability to verify a ballot cast back to the voter who cast it is an avenue to fraud. Close those avenues, and much of the opportunity for fraud disappears.

    No one should resist such measures, if they are interested in free and fair elections. The People MUST have confidence in the electoral system, else dire consequences become much more likely. We have seen an increase in hostility directly attributable to the erosion of confidence in the electoral system, and it is a fools game to keep pushing those buttons.
     
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    In this case, the future is REALLY easy to predict. If Trump wins in November, he will claim a "mandate", and that he won despite attemtps to steal the election from him. If he loses, he'll throw tantrums and whine about another stolen election, possibly sending his mob again to the Capitol. Come on, you are smart, even you will be able to predict this. Trump is SOO transparent in his self-serving, middle school style behavior, he can be read like an open book. Only his fanclub has trouble with it.
     
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    Hmm , lets just expand on this then.

    IMO, if he loses, he may end up being found guilty in a delayed trial. He will likely have gag orders included. While Trump is Brash and arrogant, I think he will be so busy legally and gagged in different cases (assuming supreme court doesn't rule in his favor) that he won't risk making any claims based on what happened to him in 2020. Could be wrong, but one thing is for sure, we will find all of this out soon enough. What I think is more likely is he ends up winning, and we see progressive version of Jan 6.
     
  25. Junkieturtle

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    Uh...the complaint is he's doing the same thing he did in 2020. Planting the seeds for the conspiracy defense if he loses.
     
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