Trump to be indicted on Wednesday, report to Court next week

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  1. fmw

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    We always disagree.
     
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    What does your reply have to do with what you were shown?
    Trump asking Raffensberger to say he 'recalculated" the numbers and there's nothing wrong doing that.

    "Trump said: "There's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, you've recalculated ... even if you cut them in half, cut them in half and cut them in half again, it's more votes than we need."




    https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106...-check-infamous-trump-phone-call-in-real-time
     
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    The issue wasn't counts. It was fraud. Counting is trivially easy.
     
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    It was never investigated?

    This is JUST from the famous phone call



    Raffensperger: Well, I listened to what the President has just said. President Trump, we’ve had several lawsuits and we’ve had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. Um, we don’t agree that you have won. And we don’t — I didn’t agree about the 200,000 number that you’d mentioned. And I can go through that point by point.

    What we have done is we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election. Going back, primarily what you’ve talked about here focused in on primarily, I believe, is the absentee ballot process. I don’t believe that you’re really questioning the Dominion machines. Because we did a hand retally, a 100% retally of all the ballots and compared them to what the machines said and came up with virtually the same result. Then we did the recount, and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we can probably take that off the table.

    Raffensperger: Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen and they were surprised.
    But they — I guess there was a person Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong. There were two.

    Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

    Raffensperger: We had GBI … investigate that. (GBI is the Georgia Bureau of Investigation)

    Are you saying that Raffensperger was lying on that phone call? That they didn't do a retally and a recount or an audit or that the GBI didn't investigate claims of fraud?
     
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    Every time Trump's little soldiers hear this bullshit claim by him or people like Stefanik & ilk they not only believe it, they repeat it.
    LOL


    Stefanik is from NY's 21st district

    Republican Accountability

    @AccountableGOP

    Mar 23

    Elise Stefanik:

    "If they can go after President Trump, they can go after you. They can go after any American."



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    Renato Mariotti
    @renato_mariotti

    7h

    If you made hush money payments to a porn star and failed to disclose them to the Federal Election Commission, you too may be targeted by the Manhattan DA.
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    Obstruction of Governmental Administration in the 2nd degree.
    Ben says yes and it's a serious charge,
    Of course the "baseball bat" enters
    "death and destruction" if he's arrested.
    Human scum
    "Soros back animal"
    Lots more,

    "Enough is enough"

    "Donald Trump’s recent post threatening Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is not only despicable but MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas argues it is its own independent crime of obstruction of government administration in the second degree."

     
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    I don't blame you for it. I don't think country would want Trump again as President.
     
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    Then, they better get a Democrat who can beat him. I don't mean Joe Biden either.
     
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    I wasn't defending the nut cases on either side so please don't presume otherwise.
     
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    Once again, twisting what I said into something that wasn't close to what I stated.
     
  12. Izzy

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    MAGA
    "Making Attorn.....you know the rest.
    Marcy@Emptywheel

    "Making sure
    @MichaelCohen212
    sees this list of 30 other lawyers who didn't take his advice to "run."

    snip:
    "The following lawyers have all — at a minimum — appeared in subpoenas pertinent to one or another of the investigations into Donald Trump, and a surprising number have testified before grand juries, including at least three with (Executive Privilege) waivers. To be clear: Many have no legal exposure themselves, but are instead simply witnesses to the efforts made to keep Trump in line before they were replaced with lawyers who were willing to let Trump do whatever he wanted, legal or no. But some of these lawyers have had legal process served against them, and so may themselves be subjects of one or multiple investigations"

    1. Michael Cohen (hush payment): convicted felon whose phones were seized April 9, 2018
    2. Rudolph Giuliani (Ukraine, hush payment, Georgia, coup attempt): phones seized in Ukraine investigation April 28, 2021, received subpoena for billing records in fundraising investigation around December 2022
    3. John Eastman (Georgia, coup attempt): communications deemed crime-fraud excepted March 28, 2022; phone seized June 22, 2022
    4. Boris Epshteyn (stolen documents, coup attempt, Georgia): testified in Georgia grand jury; phone seized in September after which he retroactively claimed to have been doing lawyer stuff
    5. Sidney Powell (fraud, coup attempt, Georgia): Subpoenas sent in fraud investigation starting in September 2021; testified before Georgia grand jury; appeared in November subpoena
    6. Jeffrey Clark (coup attempt): May 26 warrant for cloud accounts and phone seized June 22, 2022
    7. Ken Klukowski (coup attempt): May 26 warrant for cloud accounts
    8. Victoria Toensing (Ukraine, coup attempt): Phone seized in Ukraine investigation April 28, 2021, on June and November subpoenas
    9. Brad Carver (Georgia and fake elector): phone contents seized June 22
    10. Jenna Ellis (coup attempt and Georgia): Rudy’s sidekick, censured by CO Bar for lying serial misrepresentations, on June and November subpoenas
    cont to #30.
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/03/24/happy-crime-fraud-exception-day-for-those-who-celebrate/
     
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    Can't believe ppl still post THE BIG LIE anymore.
    trump own AG said there was no fraud that could affect the election.
     
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    Depending on who it might be.
     
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    Democrat corruption is truly astounding. The attack on Trump is driven by hate, not evidence or rationale lol.
     
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    Robert Costello, the lying sleazebag exposed.


    'Inside the Failed Plan by MAGA World Lawyers to Keep Michael Cohen on the ‘Right Page’ With Trump'


    'BACKCHANNEL BOB'

    'The Daily Beast obtained hundreds of emails and internal documents showing how Cohen went from a Trump confidante to the lead witness against him for paying off a porn star'.

    snip:

    "The Daily Beast has reviewed those emails, which do indeed tell a more complete story—one in which the Trump White House tried and failed to keep Cohen in line, eventually positioning him to testify against his former boss.


    The emails show an attempt to establish a backchannel running from Cohen—who was suddenly being investigated by the feds over the $130,000 payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels—all the way to then-President Trump. Costello had long been associated with Trump acolyte Rudy Giuliani, so an opportunity presented itself to establish a Cohen-Costello-Giuliani-Trump chain."

    cont:
    https://webcache.googleusercontent....o-keep-michael-cohen-on-right-page-with-trump
     
  17. Izzy

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    As Michael Cohen recently said.
    (paraphrasing)

    Robert Costello was the only one stupid enough to testify for Trump.


    Michael Cohen
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    This is Bob Costello in a nutshell; the loser who questions my credibility!

    “Our issue is to get Cohen on the right page without giving him the appearance that we are following instructions from Giuliani or the President,” Costello told his law partner.

    cont:
    https://webcache.googleusercontent....o-keep-michael-cohen-on-right-page-with-trump



     
  18. Izzy

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    Do these threats have anything to do with the Grand Jury not convening last week?

    'Russian Emails Behind DA Bomb Hoax Amid Trump Probe'

    Source: Law360

    by Frank G. Runyeon · Listen to article

    "Law360, New York (March 24, 2023, 2:23 PM EDT) -- Russian email accounts sent a series of hoax bomb threats targeting the Manhattan district attorney and court buildings for three straight days this week amid a grand jury investigation of former President Donald Trump.

    The unsubstantiated threats, now under investigation by the New York Police Department and FBI, were emailed to local government officials at a Manhattan community board, according to police. They came from Russian email addresses in the early morning hours on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, listing government buildings and schools as the targets of alleged pipe bombs, according to the local board official who received them.

    "The FBI told me that they appear to be coming from Russia," said Susan Stetzer, district manager of Community Board 3, who read the emails to Law360 Friday. The board received four email threats over the three days, often sent from @mail.ru domains under different names, she said. The NYPD confirmed the board was the recipient of the original bomb threat on Tuesday.

    The FBI declined to comment.

    Separately on Friday, a suspicious white powder was delivered to the offices of District Attorney Alvin Bragg in an envelope marked "Alvin," according to the NYPD."

    Read more: https://www.law360.com/articles/1589920/russian-emails-behind-da-bomb-hoax-amid-trump-probe
     
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    Sounds like something either Costello or Giuliani told him..lol
    Where's Joe Tapioca?
    Already off the case due to having had a consultation with Stormy in 2016?


    @SophiaCai99
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    NEW: Trump thinks the Manhattan DA’s probe into hush money has been “dropped,” he tells reporters aboard his plane. He adds that his former lawyer Michael Cohen should be indicted “for all the lies he told.”
    Show this thread

    "Former President Trump, who said last week he would be arrested in a probe into alleged hush money he paid to a porn star, now suggests the case might be dropped by Manhattan's district attorney."

    • "I think they've already dropped the case," Trump told reporters aboard his plane after appearing at a campaign rally in Waco, Texas. "It's a fake case. Some fake cases, they have absolutely nothing."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/03/26/trump-suggests-da-dropped-stormy-case
     
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    Just one decade?
     
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    Which is why, hopefully, younger Democrats are learning to play them at their own game. As well as national wins, more emphasis on local and state elections. Heck, even school boards and dog catchers. Court nominations, state and federal. Own the tired and demeaning epithets nobody even cares about anymore. No quarter!
     
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    Gym Jordan's aides are whining that they're been treated rudely when calling Bragg's office.
    DA Bragg's staffers hang-up on them and tell them to stop calling.
    Now Bragg had to school the 3 imbeciles once again.

    https://www.rawstory.com/alvin-bragg-gop/


    'Alvin Bragg Rips House GOP Chairs After Additional Inquiries Into Trump Case'

    "Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg slammed top House Republicans mere hours after the lawmakers’ efforts to double down with its inquires into former President Donald Trump’s hush money case.

    Bragg, who slammed the GOP leaders’ “unprecedented inquiry” in a letter earlier this week, took on a second co-authored letter about the case from Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), James Comer (R-Ky.) and Bryan Steil (R-Wis.) – three officials who lead the House Judiciary, Oversight and Administration committees, respectively.

    Bragg, in his response on Saturday, asserted that his office evaluates cases “based on facts, the law and the evidence.”

    “It is not appropriate for Congress to interfere with pending local investigations,” Bragg wrote."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...n&cvid=a848cac4c65e4229be6fdb06f4e28084&ei=37
     
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    No Joe, Trump's post of him wielding a baseball bat pointing at DA Braggs head was NOT quickly taken down/deleted.
    It was up for about a day until the Drudge posted it.

    'Trump's own attorney says the former president's TruthSocial posts attacking Manhattan prosecutor ahead of possible indictment were 'ill-advised'

    • Trump attorney Joe Tacopina said Trump's Truth Social posts targeting the Manhattan DA were "ill-advised."

    • Trump recently posted and deleted a photo of himself holding a bat next to DA Alvin Bragg's head.

    • Tacopina said Trump "quickly took down" the photo, though he did not delete other rhetoric.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...posts-indictment-manhattan-ill-advised-2023-3
     
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    If indicted it would be either a misdemeanor or a felony.
     

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