Trump to be indicted on Wednesday, report to Court next week

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Trump's AG didn't investigate it either. I didn't lie. It hasn't been investigated. Sorry the truth bugs you.
     
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    I'm saying that an investigation and an audit of a count aren't the same thing. The former investigates whether the ballots submitted were legal and the latter determines if they were counted accurately. It isn't complicated. There has been no investigation into the evidence of fraud. The ballots, whether legal or not, were counted correctly. Counting isn't rocket science. Hope that helps you understand.
     
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    Nothing wrong with it at all. But it didn't investigate the potential fraudulent ballots, only that they were counted correctly. People keep arguing with me about something I didn't say.
     
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    I agree with you. Indicting Trump will be good politically for Trump and bad politically for Bragg. Since this is a political action, it won't happen. It has been a show from the beginning.
     
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    Everything is wrong with what Trump asked Raff to do.
    Raffensperger did indeed investigate the voter fraud claims and found them wanting.

    It would have been criminal for Raffensperger to just SAY he recalculated the numbers and found the votes making Trump the winner in Georgia.


    "Trump said: "There's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, you've recalculated ... even if you cut them in half, cut them in half and cut them in half again, it's more votes than we need."
     
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    I am curious, did Trump not pay back Cohen for the money Cohen gave to Stormy?
     
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  7. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    You must be one of those trump loving reds that believe other indictments won't come. Stay tuned bruh, Georgia is next. LOL
     
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    What "evidence of fraud"

    Again, Raffensperger said that the GBI had investigated, what do you think they were investigating?
     
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    He did. That is supposedly the basis for the charges by Bragg.
     
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    Sorry I meant there was nothing wrong with verifying the count.
     
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    No, your lie that it wasn't investigated is what bugs me.
     
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    Let's not go there again. There was a lot of evidence of fraud that resulted from mass mailing ballots to the public. I have no interest in rehashing that. I only ask for an investigation of it if an investigation is still possible. I read the report from GBI. There was nothing in it about purpose or methodology. The fraud has not been investigated. Get over it.
     
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    But that isn't what Trump said. This call was on Jan 4th two days before the EC votes were to be counted in Congress. There was no time to accurately "recalculate" the totals. Trump wanted him to change certified vote totals and announce he had "recalculated". That would have been a crime.
     
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    No, there was NO evidence. There were claims. Those claims had been investigated and found not to be valid.
     
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    I didn't see that in the quotations of Trump's words. I don't think anybody misunderstands Trump's meaning. The question is legality.
     
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    This is a normal reaction from those that are involved with only one kind of media. There was all kinds of evidence. It is OK and understandable that you reject the notion.
     
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    It isn't lie. Show me a valid and complete report of an actual fraud investigation into the 2020 election. You can't. None exist. Count audits are not investigations of fraud. Don't let the truth get you down. Just keep fighting it. It will make you feel better.
     
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    No, actually if you research my threads I hate trump. Specifically what he did to my gun rights. Doesn’t mean I have to like people getting in the habit of trying to lock up your political opponents. I’m very much so against communist style indictments of political leaders. The left has been creeping toward communism style attacks on free speech, attacking political opponents with law, indoctrination in schools. The left are nothing but commies anymore.

    and all they have is a misdemeanor charge on him. That’s a fact. The other charge is federal not state.
     
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    And, their key witness is someone who told every attorney who works with Trump that he did this on his own without Trump's direction. And they have hundreds of emails and documents to prove it.

    So for Bragg to prosecute his case (that the statute of limitations has expired on both counts), he needs to put this witness on the stand, and the defense just has to ask one question to end the entire trial:

    "Were you lying to everyone internally then when you had no reason to lie, or are you lying now when you have every reason to lie?"

    Case closed. No chance of a conviction "beyond a reasonable doubt." And that's assuming he gets to that point which requires he gets a corrupt judge who doesn't dismiss the case based on the statute of limitations being expired or dismiss the felony charge based on federal law.

    Now that Costello has testified, Bragg has seen overwhelming evidence that Cohen is lying. Putting a witness on the stand that you know will lie is a reason for disbarment. This is NY, so he's protected from that happening, but it's still not a good look for his career. These charges couldn't possibly get any flimsier. This is the old "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" mantra personified.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Ah, only the left you have issues doing this. I don't recall you complaining about the right trying to lock up their opponents for almost a decade.

    2015 - Lock her up!
    2016 - Lock her up!
    2017 - Lock her up!
    2018 - Lock her up!
    2019 - Lock him up!
    2020 - Lock him up!
    2021 - Lock him up!
    2022 - Lock him up!
    2023 - Why is the left using politics to try and lock our hero, trump up?
     
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    Okay!
     
  22. Joe knows

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    Wow…. Find one post where I came out in support of that. But I do think she’s trash.
     
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    In one instance, you have a Secretary of State who ran our State Department off an unsecured server in her basement bathroom that she knew was hacked by foreign entities. She then had the server wiped clean after receiving a subpoena. Conversely, you have a prosecutor attempting to charge someone beyond the statute of limitations while using a federal statute in state court. Totaly the same thing. :applause:
     
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    Doesn't matter if you posted it or not. You justify their support and are hypocritical about it because you claimed only the left so this.

    And I don't care what BS you spew about gun rights, you are a trump supporter through & through. Not sure why you deny this.
     
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