Tucker Carlson using idiot neocon talking points. Why?

He has also been Pro Putin and basically for sale



His “Testicle tanning” special was the gayest thing I have seen in a long long while

 

What if the Taliban SOLD those weapons to "China Or Pakistan or Iran"? Then our enemies would have working models of the US most sophisticated weapons to disassemble and study at will, to help find work arounds to defeat us if we ever went to war and they would kill Americans with American weapons...... while using the oil Biden sold them..

 

I can understand you like to put the blame on Biden for pulling out of Afghanistan. And I agree he did a poor job. However, I guess you are aware that the decision to pull out was taken months before by Trump who had even decided on the timing. To make that pull-out less pityful, Biden should have sent back thousands of US troops there, which is something people didn't want. So the responsibility for that mess is largely shared by Trump.

 

You raise good points. I am a Tucker fan, but you are right that he often simply regurgitates obscure official narratives. After all, he does work for Murdoch.

I thought the same as you regarding the "giving away" of Afghanistan's mineral wealth. The US never possessed anything in Afghanistan, so it wasn't Biden's to "give away". More, the Chinese do legitimate business all over the globe, just as we do.

 

Tucker uses idiot neocon talking points because he's an idiot neocon. It's the only "language" in which he's fluent.

 

Actually Trump conditioned the pull out on the Taliban meeting certain requirements. Requirements that they were failing to keep.

 

IOW, why are there so many warmongers?
Ban robber Willie Sutton, if asked, would probably have answered: 'Because that's where the real money is'.

“OVERSIGHT BY CONGRESS:
Date Congress authorized U.S. forces to go after culprits in Sept. 11, 2001 attacks: Sept. 18, 2001.
Number of times U.S. lawmakers have voted to declare war in Afghanistan: 0.
Number of times lawmakers in Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee addressed costs of Vietnam War, during that conflict: 42
Number of times lawmakers in same subcommittee have mentioned costs of Afghanistan and Iraq wars: 5.
Number of times lawmakers in Senate Finance Committee have mentioned costs of Afghanistan and Iraq wars, since Sept. 11, 2001:

1. PAYING FOR A WAR ON CREDIT, NOT IN CASH: ...
Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion.
Estimated interest payments on that $2 trillion so far (based on a higher-end estimate of interest rates): $925 billion.
Estimated interest costs by 2030: $2 trillion.
Estimated interest costs by 2050: $6.5 trillion.

THE WARS END. THE COSTS DON'T:
Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care, disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq veterans: $1.6 to $1.8 trillion.
Period those costs will peak: after 2048.”

ABC NEWS, The cost of the Afghanistan war, in lives and dollars, The nearly 20-year American combat mission in Afghanistan was the United States’ longest war, By ELLEN KNICKMEYER, Associated Press, July 12, 2021.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/cost-afghanistan-war-lives-dollars-78802965

 

So, you actually think China WOULDN'T step in once we left?

Your conclusion doesn't follow from anything you've stated.

 

Not usually he has been solidly anti war since Trump was elected.

 

I guess you must only care about civility in discourse when it is convenient for you?

 

So how are they going to "step in"? Start sending 50,000 troops 4000 miles away to invade? Certainly you are not using some monkey logic that the Taliban would not mind being controlled and dominated by infidels from China?

What is so damn special about Afghanistan vs many other poor countries in central Asia? Why did they need us to bail? Those other countries have minerals and some have oil. WTF is so special about Afghanistan?

So history has not told you that the country is a black hole for anybody who invades there? The experience of the Soviets in the 80s and us for almost 20 years has not taught you anything?

 

Tucker Carlson is an entertainment host of Fox's entertainment division. It's not the news division of Fox.

In the past his lawyers have made the same claims in court as Alex Jones' lawyers, no one should believe what they say as the are purely entertainers.

Here is the issue, what they are entertaining you with is victimization, anger and fear. These are dangerous forms of entertainment and create enemies and dehumanize fellow Americans making it easier for people to be violent. It's dangerous stuff....don't be played while he lines his pockets.

 

That makes no sense militarily. They could have acquired many of our weapons from dead soldiers and down aircraft over the last 20 years. Does not mean they can mass produce them themselves.

I'm not justifying us leaving that stuff there. I am damn glad we are out of that country which has accomplished nothing, NOTHING in 20 years.

 

You see folks? Conservatives are still attached to that neocon mentality. Actually making arguments for us wasting away in that country. Using monkey logic that China is bad and Afghanistan is bad therefore the Taliban must not mind the non Muslim Chinese coming in and taking their stuff.

 

Afghnistan has large deposits of minerals, some like lithium are rare, and they are rich in that. The Afghans are not at all prepared to create the infrastructure to mine these minerals, and all major powers want and need them. The Afghans had years of war and occupations with Russia- which was not really supportive of any interest there except their own. The US on the other hand was attempting to develop a better government and long-term relationship with them. That government was supposed to remain in power- but collapsed quickly when Biden botched the withdrawal, and left $80 billion in arms, equipment and ammunition to the Taliban. That shuts us out. Who's left with the capacity and finances to mine those minerals? China.
China has positioned itself to be ready for this. China shares a border with Afghanistan, and already have some mining contracts in place, and they are the largest user of things lithium

Carlson didn't invent the story either, he just reported it. So did others:- Newsweek:


Biden Just Handed Afghanistan's Mineral Wealth to China | Opinion
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-just-handed-afghanistans-mineral-wealth-china-opinion-1620722

Management of anything that is ongoing must operate on the basis of where it is going, not where it is at. If you drive your car down the highway and never look more than 50 feet ahead- absolutely everything that happens will be a crisis, and you are quickly buried in crisises. IF you look 500 feet ahead, you are prepared to avoid all those things. This is a kind of navigation skill- and every successful businessman uses it. Biden.... hasn't got time; he has too many crisises on his hands to pay attention to the future. By the time he's aware of something that really matters- it's too late to make the right decision, assuming he had the ability to do that.

Biden's the person in the pilot's seat without a clue as to how to fly the plane- and you are one of the passengers.

 

I was not aware the Chinese or the Taliban have been picking up equipment off of our dead solders and downed aircraft...maybe I missed something....We don't usually leave anything usable or anyone behind. But Joe proved me wrong on that, as we still don't know how many US and allies are still there...I wonder how much an intact operating blackhawk would go for ?

and your post ""I'm not trying to be too long winded here""... don't worry ... you are way under one of PDS's long winded post's....

 

The Taliban are religious fanatics. They are not going to allow thousands of non Muslims to take over parts of their country. That is one of the reasons the country is so poor.

What you are describing is capitalism. A poor country allows a richer country to supply them with the earth moving equipment, trucks and expertise to access a resource of value. Why would we object to that? That does not mean they are dumb enough to just give it to China.

 

Have lookedl at a map -China's a lot closer than you think. China would likely use the "friendly" approach; economic and military aid. Technical assistance.

 

The mineral argument is really moronic I have to say. No disrespect but come on.

Remember when people cried that China could get Afghan lithium? That country is not even top 10 in reserves. China has plenty of lithium and so do we. The countries with the most lithium reserves are in southern South America. Bolivia, Chile and Argentina. Should we do a pre-emptive invasion of those countries and occupy them to keep China out?

 

The Chinese military is not sitting on that 47 mile border.

There are lot's of poor resource rich countries in Central Asia. Should we invade and occupy them all? China could get their oil, gold and silver also!

Let's take over every country that ends in stan. Based on the bush doctrine(Neocon idiocy) we should be at war with Pakistan now. We better stop the Chinese from getting all that chromite!

 

Kazakhstan, Borat's home country. Also home country of GGG.



https://www.austrade.gov.au/australian/export/export-markets/countries/kazakhstan/industries#:~:text=Kazakhstan holds vast mineral reserves,zinc, according to official estimates.

They have the 12th largest oil reserves.
30% of the world's chrome.
25% of manganese
13% of zinc
10% of iron
10% of lead
5.5% of copper

In one country? Certainly China cannot get their hands on that. Time to invade!

 

Uh dude China is putting all sorts of third world countries in both hemispheres into what amounts to debtors prisons. Now how well it will work for them over the long haul is anyone's guess but pretending like it isn't happening and doesn't matter is absurd. The big problem I have with Biden here is two fold. 1st he is doing nothing to combat this and has done nothing to create any sort of program to combat this stuff which makes it look an awful lot like 2.how deep is joe in China's pocket.

 

There's an argument for everybody, and some don't care if it makes sense at all. The Chinese are a lot smarter than you think, and the Taliban is a lot more flexible over money than they are over controlling peoples religious compliance.

 

I'm not talking about his stance on war. I'm talking about Carlson in general.

 

Dishing on celebrities is not in the same category. I'm talking about how we reply to each other on forums like this, and on social media in general. Sorry, I thought I was clear.