Turns out Miss Ukraine did not take up arms for her country

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  1. Cybred

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    Russia was not your no.1 international concern then. And it depends on who is calling whom friendly and more importantly, why.
    I never mentioned NATO or missiles in Europe.
    You can blather as much as you like. I posted an article in a reputable internationally recognised newspaper in which Trump is quoted verbatim as sucking up to Putin's Russia.
    Now you can do all the "yes but's" you like. You don't need to practise this anymore, you have it down to perfection.
    They don't come close to rejecting what Trump said. Because he said them. And I well remember taking a step back when he did.
     
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    Let's not discuss bone spurs.
    Daddy Trump is to be congratulated for making sure Trump Jr. not only lived another day but helped him on with a cool billion head start in the mafia ridden New York property business.
     
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    The only people buying into that BS is the most gullible of the left.
     
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    If you don't know what the Russian view is, you aren't qualified to discuss anything involving it. Like Trump. Why don't you ask Trump yourself what it is? He can give you chapter and verse.
    Putin didn't "run amok" anywhere before Ukraine. He was too busy selling oil.
    My dear, NO ONE outside the USA respected Trump. I was there, read the press, watched the media and laughed along with the others in the public bars. You were bowing and kneeling so low you never paid any attention to anything except the dirt on the floor.
     
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    Let me ask you something.
    If and likely when Putin crosses into NATO territory, so clearly supported by you since you applauded Trump for trying to strengthen is, just whose side are you going to be on? The one you so diligently defend via Trump's overt support for it, or the one your country created, supported and stands by as part of the only western liberal alliance on earth?
    Perhaps you need some time to think about that.
     
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    I felt like those pictures were a little too much “mockingbird” like when they came out. I’m not too surprised here I suppose.
     
  8. MJ Davies

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    You are making it up.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/asthma/can-you-join-the-military-with-asthma

    Nobody wants a guy next to them in a foxhole that can't breathe or run.


    From the link:

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    Bone spurs *were* also a legitimate medical exemption.

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    Bone spurs are not as big an issue today due to advancements in podiatry, specifically orthotics.

    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-medical-standards-for-enlistment-and-appointment-3354020
     
  9. Pixie

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    In case you have forgotten it was ISIS who ran amok in the west. And in case you forgot, it was after the only attack on your soil for 150 years by a bunch of *******s who were finally let off by Trump just before he was thrown out of the White House.
    Why? They had been supported for years by PUTIN , Trump's brother in arms, and consequently aiding those on Assad's side, who subsequently saw the USA as weak and who is now asking his Syrian brothers to come to his rescue.
    Putin played Trump like a badly tuned fiddle and when he lost his Trump card, used his oil profits and went for his no. one on his wishlist.
    And all the time you cheered.
    With your synapses fully dysfunctional.
     
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    So you know nothing about the qualifications of service as any deformity in feet disqualifies you.
     
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    Hint: Who was our President when Putin/Russia invaded Ukraine/Crimea? Trump?
     
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    Putin didn't attack Ukraine when Trump was POTUS.
    Trump was too useful playing blind when Putin was seeding arms to Assad in Syria and getting lots of practise turning peoples homes into a vision of 9/11.
    As soon as Trump was seen off the estate, Putin didn't need US anymore and started his own game in Europe.
     
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    IOW, you know that Trump was not the President when Putin attacked Ukraine and occupied the Crimea.

    So, again which President "played blind with Putin" when Putin first attacked Ukraine?
     
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    I doubt it all hinged on Miss Ukraine....;)
     
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    Yes, the USG did apparently arm ISIS and Al Queda in Syria -- during the Obama administration.

    “The White House decided to support armed rebels in Syria despite intelligence warnings forecasting the rise of the Islamic State.

    In Al Jazeera’s latest Head to Head episode, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn confirms to Mehdi Hasan that not only had he studied the DIA memo predicting the West’s backing of an Islamic State in Syria when it came across his desk in 2012, but even asserts that the White House’s sponsoring of radical jihadists (that would emerge as ISIL and Nusra) against the Syrian regime was “a willful decision.” [Lengthy discussion of the DIA memo begins at the 8:50 mark.]”
    FOREIGN POLICY JOURNAL, Rise of Islamic State was ‘a willful decision’: Former DIA Chief Michael Flynn, By Brad Hoff | Aug 7, 2015 | Middle East, News & Analysis, US | 39 |.
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...lful-decision-former-dia-chief-michael-flynn/
     
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    What do you mean "it turns out". She never claimed she took up arms. As a matter of fact she specifically pointed out the gun was not real, and that she was not fighting in Ukraine.

    What people thought or assumed the pic was all about is another matter.
     
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    Rebels are those who fought against Assads Russian backed govt forces and were the ones driven out of their homes. Clearly Putin was practising for his next objective...another freedom loving people.
     
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    Are you on medication? Al Qaeda attacked the USA on 9/11. Bill Clinton had an opportunity to kill Bin Laden before that and did not.

    Taliban is not Al Qaeda and Afghans will fight anybody who invades their country. They fought the Soviets from 1980-1988.

    Trump's agreements with the Taliban apparently worked since for 18 months there were few US casualties.

    As for the Russians in Syria they were there before Trump came to office. So what if they happened to have a common enemy in ISIS and also bombed them?

    ISIS developed and controlled almost 2 whole countries while Obama was president and was a threat to the whole civilized world. Then Trump evaporated them and for over 4 years we do not see ISIS in the news.
     
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    Trump was the ultimate peace maker compared to other presidents.

    Fighting in Afghanistan practically came to a halt for the last 18 months of Trump's administration. Obama on the other hand added 30,000 American troops and caused more death and destruction and more USA casualties while accomplishing nothing. So he won a Nobel prize. :roll:

    I'm less harsh in my criticism of Biden's Afghan withdrawal because incompetent and poorly managed as it was it finally got us out of that damn country. Afghanistan does not belong to us and we do not have the right to control it forever. We accomplished nothing being there.

    Neocons will talk about other countries like they are our 51st state. That is stupid.
     
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    ISIS/ISILand NUSRA are "freedom loving people"?

    "... the White House’s sponsoring of radical jihadists (that would emerge as ISIL and Nusra) against the Syrian regime was “a willful decision.”
    FOREIGN POLICY JOURNAL, Rise of Islamic State was ‘a willful decision’: Former DIA Chief Michael Flynn, By Brad Hoff | Aug 7, 2015 | Middle East, News & Analysis, US | 39 |.
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...lful-decision-former-dia-chief-michael-flynn/
     
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