Two and a half hour explaination of everthing Creationism.

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  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    As always general generic information and no specifics. All you show is God may have created them and God built in evolution.

    Evolution does not prove creation wrong nor does it prove where the evolution started
     
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    cassandrabandra New Member

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    The theory of evolution has nothing to do with whether God exists or not

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1034.html

    but it is science, and creationism is not.
     
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    I find scientists just as untrustworthy as anyone else.

    You've got a tiny speck of a rock and you expect me to believe that somehow you know it is the million year old remains of a primitive humanlike ape?

    Isn't that convenient for them? That only THEY have the tools and expertise to extract all that "eternal wisdom" from a tiny speck of a rock?

    I don't buy it.

    Show me more.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Here, I'll translate that.

     
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    cassandrabandra New Member

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    If you think like this, I think it is a safe bet to say you are not really interested in more.

    whether that is through not having the "building blocks" of knowledge needed to understand the scientific method, or pure bloody mindedness, I wouldn't know ... but my guess is most likely its a combination.
     
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    Actually, it is directly contradictory and hijacking the hard work of those scientists who have toiled endlessly to bring this beautiful work of science to humanity (Under prosecution of the church in many cases) is directly insulting the intelligence and ingenuity of all of humanity. Good work.
     
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    Evolution certainly proves that god made man in his own image apart from the animals. so that whole adam and eve schtick is nonsense.

    Evolution does not preclude a creator of the universe. Neither does the big bang.

    It does "narrow" the field of possibilties tho. And, the fact that there may or may not have been a "creator" does not contribute in any way to the discussion of whether that "creator" is the god of the bible/koran.

    In fact, it doesn't make any sense that this mysterious and unimaginable creature who lives outwith of space and time would have the least bit of interest in such an innocuous little solar system as ours. One of only about 300 sextillion stars (thats a 3 with 22 zeros).
     
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    Aliens are more falsifiable than some being that exists outside of space and time. Kind of sad. I'm more willing to believe that aliens created us than a God.
     
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    Or that we are aliens ourselves:

    Scientists find building blocks of life in meteorites


    What will be really interesting, is WHEN we do find other life outside of Earth, if it is Carbon based, will it have the save DNA structure as life on this planet.
     
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    If it is carbon based it will have evolved in a similar ecology to our own, however the biology of the environment may be different to ours so they will develop differently as well.

    They will NOT be humanoid. They may have opposable thumbs. But there have been many books about scientists like myself musing on such biology, mostly biologists who can predict the outcome by looking at our own evolutionary path. Trust me you wouldn't have the time to go through them all, but as an Astrophysicist I find that the question of life outside out small stars sphere of influence is within the domain of my research.
     
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    Creation is a theory just like evolution
     
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    No the insult is expecting us to believe a theory with so much information missing
     
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    What alien?
     
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    It is a theory in the layman sense of the word, but it is not a scientific theory.
     
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    Any and all that may have come about as a result of the natural laws of the universe we reside in.

    We're here, so logically it follows that other life can or has existed far longer than us. Thus it is possible that if they haven't killed themselves as humanity is likely to do if they continue on this path of ridiculously unfounded hatred, they will have produced technology sufficient to create life.

    We are quite close to doing such things ourselves. (on a VERY VERY VERY fundamental level, like biomolecular synthesis fundamental.)
     
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    A SCIENTIFIC THEORY is based upon facts, laws and hypothesises, is testable and falsifiable, has no evidence that can't be worked into the theory (has never been demonstrated to be false) and due to the overwhelming amount of evidence in support is considered the best hypothesis (all theories are hypothesis but not all hypothesises are theories) available. It is however not considered proven as proof is considered impossible in science. Science is based upon probability not absolute certainty.
     
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    creationism is NOT a theory. it is a belief based on ancient myths.

    by pretending it is a theory which has a value equal to the theory of evolution, extremist christians create a conflict between science and religion.

    such people would be well suitd to living in the dark ages - only they couldn't get by without the benefits of modern science.
     
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    So what? You have not disproved creation or that evolution is a product of creation
     
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    What alien? You have no proof of an alien
     
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    So science is based on opinions and assumptions and conjecture
     
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    So King David was also a myth? Or maybe Abraham is a myth. If the history of the Bible is correct creation may also be correct
     
  22. GraspingforPeace

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    And because Spider-man was filmed in a real place, New York City, then Spider-man must be real as well.
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    How the hell did you get that from what he said?
     
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    So you have no answer
     
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    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    If it is not proven what else could it be
     

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