Tyre Nichols beating: Race Theory vs CRITICAL Race Theory

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Your theory falls apart in face of the fact that the police kill more whites than blacks. And your characterization of critical race theory is your own, not what is promoted in academia. You seem to believe that systemic racism causes individuals police to act individually in racist ways. CRT views any system that results in a racial disparity to be systemic racism. Kendi's example of a capital gains tax cut as being systemic racism. Simply because fewer blacks have capital gains is a good example. Or voter ID laws because 96% of whites have ID while only 94% of blacks do.
     
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    Do you see the differences in reporting between your ABC News link and the Vanity Fair opinion piece? The ABC News article did not make the claim that the Vanity Fair article did.

    Tell me, (from your ABC News article), isn't this what many on the left have been arguing for?:

    ???

    Hell, those on the left should be ECSTATIC for that part. Yet they're hollering about it?

    What gives? Why the sudden reversal?
     
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    Im pretty sure most everything these police did was against their training and policies. True the training they do receive advocates the use of force too liberally. What Chauvin did, with a knee to the back of his neck, is a tactic police are trained to use.
    I think this and a lot of police over use of force is from "contempt of cop". A perp denies their authority and it really pisses off the cops and their training goes out the window. Cops in theis incident were heard on the radio expressing that they hope the perp receives a proper beating when caught.
     
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    I was not discussing this latest incident. I never comment on developing news stories involving crime. Honestly I don't even read much about it until the second or third week. The added hype adds to the incentive of media to print half baked and under sourced stories. The stories are so frequently wrong or speculative simply to get a story out there each day to catch the publicity wave.
     
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    The silly, contemporary term, "superhero" hadn't been invented back then, but how about James Baskett, who starred as lovable, wise Uncle Remus in the Disney movie, "Song of the South". Baskett won an honorary Oscar for his role!

    Enjoy:

    [​IMG]. "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah!"
     
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    You described the interaction between these lawless cops and a white individual, predicted a different outcome and declared the actual result the result of racism due to your prediction of the counterfactual.
     
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    Yes, it's the lying fake news corporate media, carefully stoking outrage and violence to increase ratings and serve the political interests of the DNC which are only kept afloat to the extent that they can cheat during elections a foment black rage.

    This was a bad cops event.
    This was not a racial event.
     
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    Where were you ever taught that "there is only 1 human race"? If you were taught this escapist, 'wokish' idiocy in any college or university that actually charged money for tuition, demand your money back! ;)

    There are three or perhaps four races within humankind, according to anthropologists and geneticists:
    Caucasoid ("White")
    Mongoloid (East Asian, American Indian, "Oriental")
    Negroid ("Black")
    Australoid (Australian Aboriginal)

    I'll give you one link, but even the textbooks used in high school biology classes should clear the matter up fully.... :roll:

    Link: https://biologywise.com/list-of-human-races
     
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    Whether on is a creationist or evolutionist, the source of humans still come from a singular.

    Humans are all the same race. Period.
    Humans name things, absolutely. Sometimes humans name things incorrectly.
    The division of humans, from the link I shared, was along the lines of wealth. Not skin color. And was about wealth and kingdoms and the like for most of the division history.

    What I was hoping you'd realized about redlining was it put a large segment of our population into poverty. Legally and on purpose.
    And most of those segments of population have never recovered from the bleak poverty they were legally put into.

    It's not an excuse, it's a fact. It was the system. Systems take generations to change. Unless there's a concerted effort to make changes from society.
    One person, you, is not representative for an entirety of a group of people.
     
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    LOL, so do you.
    If one wants to present factual evidence, go for it. I don't keep a closed mind.

    Why would I accept the nonsense that CRT as it's created is being taught in primary education.
    No one has proven it is. Except for, your words some leftist teachers, going against school policies.
    I'd be foolish not to reject it.
     
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    No, I was not speaking of these cops, except to say that it was not a coincidence that they chose a black person, not a white one: this is a fact. They did accost someone who was black, not white. (There was a good bit more, to my post, but you are apparently not interested in discussing any of that, as you did not quote it).
     
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    As usual you got it completely wrong. I'd like to say I was surprised by that but no you consistently even helplessly get it wrong.

    Racism - You don't like someone to the point of hatred because of the color of their skin. That, however, is an opinion and opinions can change over time.



    Critical race theory, not only do you hate people because of the of the color that belief is endemic to who you are and every bad thing that ever happened to any minority at any place or time is your personal responsibility.

    Tied inexorably to the above is the idea that if you are a member of a minority group you cannot possibly have a successful let alone happy life in this country because it is full of racist white people.

    Do you want to know why BLM burned down so many successful black owned businesses during the summer of burning, looting and murdering in 2020? Because the idiots doing all that crap believed in critical race theory, and therefore there could not be any such a thing as a black owned business.
     
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    Are you arguing that when a black person is subjected to illegal treatment that is necessarily due to racism?
     
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    Just about everyone was put into bleak poverty during the great depression. Most every family reovered nicely. It was the system thst permitted that.
     
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    About once a year by cops about the same is true for white people. The only difference is the only difference is no one gives a **** when some white idiot gets his ass best by the cops.

    Now you want to know who is really at fault for the beating death of Tyre Nicols? The jackasses that keep praying the nonsense that cops are looking to assassinate black people every chance they get. If lefty didn't keep telling black folks that if they don't run the cops will kill em where they stand. That message coming from irresponsible jackasses masquerading as journalism. That message doesn't permeate leftist media, Tyre might not have run, and he would still be alive today.
     
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    Not true. Everyone was not allowed to recover by the system.

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    History
    The specific process termed "redlining" in the United States occurred on the background of racial segregation and discrimination against minority populations. It had its origins in sales practices of the National Association of Real Estate Boards and theories about race and property values codified by economists surrounding Richard T. Ely and his Institute for Research in Land Economics and Public Utilities, founded at the University of Wisconsin in 1920.[15] With the National Housing Act of 1934 the federal government began to be involved in the practice and the concurrent establishment of the Federal Housing Administration (FHA).[16]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
     
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    Yup. The system requires many traits such as intellibence, punctuaity, logical thinking, perfectionism. Not everybody has these traits.
     
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    May I respectfully suggest you scroll up and read my Post #108?

    What mass delusion has afflicted people so thoroughly that they have become brainwashed into thinking that there are no 'races' within humanity? There are at least three, and maybe four.... Don't take my word for it -- ask any competent anthropologist or geneticist...
     
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    Oh! Dear! I knew someone would quote white supremacist rubbish I just did not think it would be you!

    So sorry!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Wade

    As for the other author

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Levin

    Eeeeewwwwww! What a slimy piece of humanity!
     
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    Oh! What rubbish!
    You overlook the role of the Boogaloo Bois in starting fires during the BLM protests for a start! And you are assigning too much complex political motivation to this - crowds have simple motivations. The real reason why BLM protests went on so long and we’re so violent and why we are NOT seeing that now lies in the government response. During BLM many felt thier concers were being dismissed and minimised.
     
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    CRT enthusiasts want whites to feel responsible for black victims, even where, as here, the perpetrators themselves are black.

    A tiresome and silly argument.
     
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    He should be reported to the mods, actually. False accusations like this are as bad as racism.
     
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    It really is amazing how leftists can do no wrong no matter what. :rolleyes: Bad **** happens? Blame it on the other guys!!! They're always at fault! No matter what! :rolleyes:
     
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    I respectfully suggest that you leave white supremacist rubbish in the sewerage where it belongs
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)

    Now if there is distinct genetic superiority in any race I might suggest the Chinese win hands down. However I reject the premise that there are “superior” and “inferior” races.
     

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