U.S. Marines, Including Lesbian Couple, Discharged After Faking Marriages

U.S. Marines, Including Lesbian Couple, Discharged After Faking Marriages

A good example of why gay marriages should be allowed.

If the federal government would recognize gay marriage, then these kinds of situations could be completely avoided.

And before anyone says this Marines were deceptive and defrauding the Corps, I knew of a few marriages where the Marine got the money and could live off base while the 'spouse' got a military card and the benefits. Its a called a contract marriage.

 

Who forced them to live off-base?

 

This has nothing to do with gay marriage. All four were defrauding the government. There is no indication that this woman would have married her girlfriend.

She was free to live off post with her girlfriend. The fact of the matter is that single people in the military have billets on post and unless those billets are completely filled [seldom the case], you are required to maintain a room/bunk on post. When billets fill to over capacity, service personnel are allowed to live off post and be afforded an off-post living allowance. It starts with the senior NCOs first and rolls down rank until the overcapacity is remedied.

These marines could maintain their billet and live off post. They must do it, however, out of pocket. Share an apartment with 2-3 others and it is doable. I did it on 3 separate occasions. Money is a bit tighter, but the freedom more than makes up for it.

 

You want gays to be able to marry but have no problem throwing drug users in prison. Hypocrisy much?

 

If a straight couple would have been entitled to benefits, then the lesbian couple should have been entitled to the same. Marriage affords people special rights, rights which are denied to same sex couples.
The women did commit fraud, and for that they should be punished. But if they were allowed to wed, this wouldn't have happened.

 

I should have faked a marriage while I was in. My friends has girls; could have just go married to one of them and spit the benefits 50/50. Of course they are women so you never know when they're going to up and run off.

 

or firing teachers that, on their own time, denounce gay marraige.

 

marry a man

problem solved

 

The government shouldn't be recognizing any marriage at all. Its something the federal government does not have the authority to be involved in.

 

LOL

Well I'd say that the military sorta HAS to make arrangements for married men. It's not like they all are single and the military sorta has an obligation don't you think?

 

I don't think marriage should be even brought up in the military.

The military members are there to protect our nation and to kill our enemies, not to date and get married.

 

When I was in the Corps, if you were an E-5 and below and wanted to live off bass, you needed permission to do so.

If you were married, you either lived on base with the housing the government provided or lived off base.

To say she was 'free' to live off base is not true at all.

And yes, this is about gay marriage....if the Federal Government would recognize gay marriage, the two lesbians would have been free to marry each other. You can try and say that there is no indication that the women would have married each other, but if they are willing to do contract marriages, then its safe to assume they would have married each other instead.

 

LOL we aren't robots, dude! Although service members sacrifice a few freedoms we don't sacrifice them all when we join and we are not out there constantly killing people we do, get to live at times trust me. When we are deployed in combat areas there is no marriage, but to think we just flip a switch to serve and protect mode for at least two years and do not enjoy the same things that all other Americans do is crazy.

 

This is not a gay marriage issue...

This is an issue of someone defrauding the US government, which, if you haven't heard, is illegal...

 

Fraud inspiring military marriage allowance.....During my almost nine years active, nothing...AND I MEAN NOTHING...pissed me off more than some freshly minted, freshly married E-3 being compensated more than an unmarried E-6 with six plus years active duty.

Gay or straight, ones OPTION to get married should never result in a GUARANTEED, substantial pay raise.

 

...I ask YET AGIAN, would you GAYMAFIOSOS be ok with civil unions that was 100% equal to marriage?...marriage has been defined as 1 man 1 woman, so it's something that is out of the question, but civil union isn't...



Kabuki Joe

 

I completely agree.

 

I was an E-5 and E-6, single and living on base because their was billeting for me. I chose to live off base which required me to maintain a billet, but was free to do so as long as I provided my superiors with contact information and pay for it out of pocket. One of my soldiers also lived off post and maintained a billet because that was her preference. If you weren't allowed to live off base on your own dime, sucks to be you. You could have taken it up the chain of command and been allowed to do so.

This hasn't changed for many years.

Sucks to be her. She either didn't know her options or she had a hard-ass commander who trampled on her options.

No this is about HuffPo and liberals like you framing another argument for gay marriage.

This woman knew she was joining the military. She knew they had a DADT policy which by its very distinction disallowed homosexuality and any possibility of gay marriage.

She wanted to live off post and would do anything, including marry a man, to live off post. Federal Law isn't and should never be in the business of marriage. And since the military is an extension of the Federal Government, they should not be either.

 

We called them "stripper marriages"....a business arrangement between a young military guy seeking more pay, and some seductive, random dancer looking for free health care and a few extra dollars to party with.

It was, and I'm sure still is, quite common.

 

Junior enlisted can usually move off base once they get to their permanent duty station,
they just won't get paid for it. To get a housing allowance you need to make rank first,
usually E-4 to E-5 qualifies for off-base housing allowances.

 

I've never heard that before....that's beyond ridiculous to have the expectation that those who serve
will not date and be un-married while in the military.

 

Marry a tree..
Have government water your spouse for free.

This comment is ssooo wayy over most heads.

 

This is so classic liberal hypocrisy.

They commit fraud but because they believe in the cause then its ok.

 

Not saying they won't date or marry, but it should not even be talked about within the military.

 

First off you were Army, y'all had much more relaxed standards then the Corps does.

Also as I stated, you had to be an E-5 or higher in 29 Palms (3rd LAR anyways). Read much?

There was no other options....Again, IN THE MARINE CORPS, you had to be an E-5 or higher to live off base if you were single.

1 – First off I am not a liberal, even thou the ANTI-LGBT brigade would likes to label me as such.
I am a Republitarian. I am smart enough to realize the Republican party has been high-jacked by the religious right. I can see that social issues are not black and white unlike the right would like the world to believe they are.

2 – DADT simply was a don’t ask don’t tell policy, not a you cannot serve policy. Once you understand that, then we can continue. Also, this an another example of why DADT had to go. Im sure this ws

3 – When the Federal Government hands out 400 rights that come with marriage, then yes the Federal Government should be in the business of marriage. IF you would like to give your 400 rights, then I will agree.