U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

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  1. MSmith

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    WASHINGTON, May 30 (Reuters) - U.S. police have shot and killed 385 people during the first five months of this year, a rate of more than two a day, the Washington Post reported on Saturday.

    The Post's analysis indicates the daily death toll for 2015 is close to 2.6 as of Friday. At that pace, police will have shot and killed nearly 1,000 people by the end of the year, the paper said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/police-fatal-shootings-20_n_7477658.html

    It is also a well-known fact that American cops killed more people in March than the UK did in the entire 20th century. I'm not sure if this is true, but it sounds scary as Hell! Is this about Gun culture? I mean, American civilians have guns, the UK does not. What if we are the victims of our own laws? What if this is the price of freedom?
     
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    Not gun culture, gang and drugs culture more like it. Also im willing to bet the majority of the people killed by police had it coming.
     
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    That's all? 385?

    Color me surprised.
     
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    We're a victim of many things, one of them being a vastly populated country at 300 million. It's still projected that only 1 out of 10 Americans would be incarcerated. So, why do we have a high incarceration rate? Number of people. 1 out of 10 Americans for us, is like 3/5ths for many countries. And this at a time where the Democratic Party is promoting a mass legalization. It will win them November, but utterly decimate the fabrics of the United States.

    The last time they got this wish(1986), it was an importing of 1 million Mexicans(or to encompass the whole thing, South Americans will be a better term). But this time around, it's arguably as many as 11 million people.

    The difference between a developing child and an adult, is that the child's resources will increase as the child ages. The adult has a necessity of resources now. Adding 11 million would-be workers to a market where young people are struggling to find jobs is the definition of INSANITY. But that's what the Democratic Party is doing.

    Of course, the criminal elements among those 11 million are also a factor, but just on the economy alone we need to say no to the Democratic Party. In fact, the majority of the country Opposes the motion
     
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    If you don't know if it's true, why would you bring it into the discussion? This is PF where we expect valid data to be brought forth, unlike MSNBC or CNN who will promote unvetted information under the guise of "facts" just to get some exposure. It should not be up to the reader to validate your "facts."
     
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    Freedom isnt free, no one ever said it was. You are free to move to the UK and feel safe there with people telling you what you cant own. The reason we have different nations is because people who want to live a certain way tend to congregate together. Here in the United States people cherish their freedoms and despise people who dont. A person who willingly gives up their freedom doesnt deserve it in the first place.
    Also, you never stated if the two per day stat that you posted were lawful shootings?
     
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    Should read, "Police have shot dead 385 bad guys." Better them than the police. Police are assaulted hundreds of thousands of times every year. The fact that only 385 bad guys have died shows quite a bit of restraint by the police. The police tend to win in deadly confrontations, but way too many die in the line of duty.

    https://www.odmp.org/
     
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    What I have just witnessed in reading the "rights" reply to this factoid, is exactally what is wrong with their diseased perception of what justice should be. Imagine, justifying the deaths of what in all likelihood, is the murder of innocent people.

    Police choose to be police. They know, or should know, the consequences of being a cop. It's not easy work nor is it something you just can hang up at the end of a day. Still, that's is what they are getting paid to do. If you can't handle the job, then you should not be a cop. I do not have any extended sympathy for people who chose to do this kind of work. That being the case, I have even less sympathy for cops who break the law murdering people.

    The idea of police becoming judge and jury is frightening and too often cops are acting out of emotional frustration as opposed to a sincere devotion to apprehending alleged criminals to be tried later in a court of law.
     
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    How many of these "victims" were returning fire? How many were violent?

    Scratch those off the list of tragedy.

    How many were illegals? How many were gang members or high on something? Don't care about them either.

    How many were responsible, working parents with families and kids? THATS really the only number that would've disturbing. A completely innocent person being shot for no reason.
     
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    So if someone steals your car or assaults you does that mean you wont call them for help?
     
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    Similarly related , one notes that the very same type of Dem Party people in Baltimore who were howling in rage at the EVIL police and figuratively (if not literally) spitting on them NOW are demanding that there be an armed and proactive police officer on every street corner of their trash-pile of a leftist controlled and operated city. Gasp! It's almost as if those very same citizens are utterly clueless idiots! Delicious, delicious irony.
     
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    Yes of course its like the leftist actors who despise guns so much they hire people to use them to protect them and glorify them in their movies for their own profit. The lawful gun owner who has done nothing other than own one is the villain. This is the same mentality.
     
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    Criminals "choose to be" criminals. "They know, or should know, the consequences of being a" criminal............"If you can't handle the" time, "then you should not be a" criminal. "I do not have any extended sympathy for people who chose to do" crimes. "That being the case, I have even less sympathy for " criminals "who break the law murdering people."
    Very easy to turn most of your words around. If you don't like "cops", do them a favor and never call one when you need one.
     
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    Why would you say that? I neither stated nor implied a distrust for all police. Even with all the technological advances being made for police in non-lethal weaponry and techniques, still the death toll rises. Bottom line; Weed out the bad cops.
     
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    I understand your point, but what about those that don't commit crimes? 93 year old woman from Texas, remember? What kind of danger did she represent? Unqualification, silliness, brutality? I don't know what it is. But this is an outrage.
     
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    there are over 14 million arrest made a year in the US and of those 14 million if only 1000 end in a death i would conceder that acceptable tragic but acceptable
    that stat blows your premise out of the water if you put it in proper context now doesn't it
     
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    I agree with your post 100%

    When the law is allowed to kill without any due process, there is something seriously wrong.
     
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    You make the sophomoric assumption that to hold police to be responsible for their actions, somehow connotes a rejection of police authority, which is blatantly absurd. Perhaps you need to read up on the constitutional duties of a Peace Officer and their relationship with the constitutional "rule of law." A person only becomes a bona fide criminal AFTER they have been detained, charged and tried in a court of law...not before.
     
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    Aside from not being able to own a handgun (which, being completely unnecessary in Britain, doesn't figure on my list of priorities, frankly), what 'freedoms' do you think Americans enjoy which we in Britain don't?
     
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    I have to call them after the body stops twitching........ I am under no obligation to call them before. I don't hire my fighting done
     
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    Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever trust Huffington Post to approach a topic with honesty or facts....it's a partisan kook blog.

    Wasted bandwidth.
     
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    There are nearly 14,000,000 interactions with police each year. So we are on pace to kill 1000/14,000,000.

    What's the problem with that? Seems like a reasonable number given the amount of violent criminals and crimes committed.
     
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    I'm sending you $1 million dollars. Just wait outside with the front door open and I'll be right there. Have tea and scones (almond please) ready for me and my driver, as we'll be hungry. I like Earl Grey breakfast blend, the driver will drink whatever is hot.

    I pulled that out of my (*) (*) (*). "It's up to you to decide believe it or not."
     
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    So you would call them even knowing a bad cop may show up correct?

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    The freedom to take my gun.
     

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