U.S. Police Have Shot Dead 385 People In Five Months

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't say any of the stuff you think I said.

    Nobody is labeling any groups here, at least not me. I'm not even sure what "groups" you're talking about. I said nothing about eliminating rights and using prejudice to justify it.

    Did you mean to respond to someone else? Or did you assume you know what my position is and how I think because I don't blame the cops for all those shootings?
     
  2. jdog

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    In reality, it is the opposite that is the truth.
     
  3. 10A

    10A Chief Deplorable Past Donor

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    What psychological studies do you have to support your asinine statements? Most likely just projection on your part.
     
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    You began your statement with this "With all the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags out there" . If you do not think that is not prejudicial, then you do not know the meaning of the word.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    typical hyperbole statement to create a straw man argument

    No one is saying police brutality doesn't exist it just isn't in epidemic proportions you try to make it out to be and most of the time what you call brutality is rightfully justified actions by the police.
    I hate to inform you criminals don't put hand cuffs on them selves and sit themselves in the back of the police car to be taken to jail. many times it requires the police to get physical to make that happen and when the criminal resist they have to get more physical.
    what do you want to happen the cops going ok this guy is resisting and I can not get any more physical with this guy because it might be construed as brutality. so we just need to let him go
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you know about reality?? judging from your posts, calling police officers psycopaths, along with veterans returning home from deployments, you are completely out of touch with reality. Your liberal friends have told you these things, when OBVIOUSLY you have never left the shelter of your moms basement to see what really goes on in the world, and WHY police officers are forced to make the decisions that they make, if they want any hope of coming home in one piece at the end of the day. Not only are you sheltered enough to have this twisted view of the world, but you demonize the very people who keep you safe enough to have such warped view. Don't worry, soldiers and police officers will continue to keep you safe, no matter how much you try to make them look like the bad guys.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Prejudicial against who? Criminals? People who commit crimes?

    Why don't you just go ahead and say exactly what you think I mean so we can stop dancing here because I have no idea what hidden agenda you think I have.

    EDIT: Now I understand. You're prejudiced against cops.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    A handgun would have come in handy when that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) was cutting off a British soldiers head on the street in broad daylight.
     
  10. jdog

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    LOL! It is obviously you who are living in the basement. Police are psychopaths, there is no doubt whatsoever about that. The links in my previous post list several studies which list law enforcement as among the top 10 professions that attract psychopaths, with the military being among the top 10 also. No cop or soldier has ever done anything to make me safer, and in fact have made the world a more dangerous place for us all. That is the truth, do not get butthurt about it. Sorry to shatter your Kool-Aid induced delusions....
     
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    US is light years away from an honest comparison with the soviet union record, if you were better informed about them yourself you'd know.
    It is known that the US police has some cases where there's reason to believe they acted wrongfully and even criminally, but again the thought that the police are out there to abuse their power just because couldn't be further from the truth.

    This is the problem with the discourse in the US, its always either one extreme, the police are always the good guys, or the bad ones. It's either a gun problem or a race problem.

    Alot of things need to be fixed in the US, and police misconduct ,while serious, is not event among the top #5 biggest issues.
    That's only my opinion anyway.
     
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    How about search and seizure. Do you own a TV? Because if you do you have to pay your friends at the BBC a little payment. The BBC can also come in your house (w/o a warrant) and look for those TVs.
     
  13. jdog

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    Your statement is clearly prejudicial against your fellow citizens driven by paranoia and a sense of cowardice and fear of others. The truth is that the vast majority of so called criminals are convicted of so called "victimless non violent" crimes such as drug possession. The reason for this is that the Law Enforcement / Prison system in the US is able to facilitate its own growth by way of imprisoning people for unconstitutional crimes. Cities and Counties also profit greatly from the false prosecution of citizens. If you want to know the real truth, follow the money. The money always leads to the truth.
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    No, it's evolution in progress.

    evolution n.

    Biology. change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.


    In order for man to evolve the fit and intelligent must survive by using their brains, the weak and stupid usually remove themselves from the gene pool so as not reproduce more dumb people. The Police are here to enforce the laws and keep order in our society. Intelligent people comply with the enforcement aspect of our laws. If they did something wrong, then the Judicial and Corrections aspect take over. If the cops did something wrong, the Judicial aspect again comes into play righting the wrong financially or criminally against the wrong doing cop and his department. Stupid people try to fight with, run from or kill the enforcers of our laws. They deserve absolutely NO sympathy. In fact they are doing society a favor by removing themselves from the Gene Pool.

    USA Today: The ones that get away

    This guy's story is unreal, justice has NOT been served.

    BTW, in the first 5 months of this year 16 Cops were shot to death.
     
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    1) When it comes to cops and criminals, cops should be given the benefit of the doubt. This is heavily backed up by the number of arrests vs # of injustices done by police (an incredibly low %).

    2) good response

    3)/4) From your own definition: "a person who has committed a crime"

    5) No, I don't, that's what the left does and by your posts, you do as well. If you actually looked at facts, you'd realize that police officers have an incredibly high % of their arrests which are executed as they should be, without incident. Which in turn goes back to #1, they've earned the benefit of the doubt. You clearly have judged them w/o looking at the facts as you claim you like to do.

    6) Yet you couldn't point out a single thing I said that was absurd while I was able to easily dispute your posts....I think we're done here.

    Try to practice what you preach. Actually look at the facts and think things through without your political blinders on.
     
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    Suppose I inform you, as you seem to be the one in need.

    The Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin considered some of the worst in history. With over 18 million victims during the 40 years they were in use.
    Todays prison population in the US is 7 million and will exceed 20 million people over a similar 20 year period. We now hold the #1 position in history... But don't let the facts alter your fantasy driven opinion.
     
  17. Injeun

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    So, duck and run and let someone else do the job? I think your thinking is reality challenged.
     
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    Since the police is buying more and more heavy military equipment, and more and more unarmed civilians getting slaughtered.... time to face the music that a police force acting like they are attacking ISIS in the middle east.

    Well I like to inform you racists.....
     
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    So you're informed then? That just makes the comparison even more pathetic.
    So how many of those 7 million are political prisioners? How many of them are in jail for being jewish? gypsy? How many of them were executed for those very same reasons or similar ones? How many gulags are there in the US or comparable to?

    The reason the US has a high incaceration system is due to the war on drugs, which is pathetic and also because, crime pays in the US, and for some is actually a way of living and they don't know any other way but to be criminals. No other countrie has gang as business models, heck even the Hell Angels are exporting their brand outside the US.

    Now if you still think this is comparable to the USSR please explain me so, maybe i'm missing something.
     
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    so when I say the word criminal the first person that pops into you head is a minority
    Now who is the racist again?
     
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    sometimes it reaches far beyond the cops:
    You’re All Out!!!
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    A defense attorney uncovers a brazen scheme to manipulate evidence, and prosecutors and police finally get caught.
    By Dahlia Lithwick

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._goethals_takes_district_attorney.single.html
     
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    It should be 0.
     
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    Every person in prison for drugs are in fact political prisoners. Drug convictions are by definition a victimless crime, which means the only reason it is illegal is that the people have chosen to deny the governments usurpation of power to tell people what they can do with their own bodies.

    The Constitution clearly states the government has no powers other that what it has been given by the people, and that all rights given under the Constitution are inalienable. That means they cannot be taken away nor given up. The most primary among those rights is that a citizen is sovereign, meaning that the citizens are the owners of themselves and thereby their body.

    No government Federal or State has ever or could ever be given ownership of the citizens body which would be a prerequisite of telling the citizens what medicines or substances it may put into their body.

    Criminal law is based on common law in which you must first prove harm in order to establish a crime has been committed. There is no crime without harm. If you are imprisoning people for doing what is not a crime, you are imprisoning them for political reasons.

    American do not have any duty to obey laws, unless those laws are in accordance with the Constitution. If laws are not in accordance with the Constitution, then they are by definition in opposition to the Constitution and it is the duty of the Citizens to oppose them.
     
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    In what way? He was killed well before anyone had time to pull out a gun. The murderers then gave themselves up. If anyone had a gun, more than one person would have died.
     
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    So we agree on something (thoug i think is a strech comparing people is jail for drug related charges as political prisioners) . Problem is alot of americans think the war on drugs is the only legitimate way to fight the drug problem, little do they know its the biggest contributing factor for th drug issues in the US.

    It is painfully obvious, yet no US president/candidate dares to touch the issue, fearing it will cause them loss of votes.

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    So in some situations you'd rather have dead cops than suspects?
     

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