U;tra- Rich are screwing the middle class and the poor

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Don Townsend, Nov 9, 2013.

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!!
     
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    It is still baloney!
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    Please, define "capitalist" as YOU mean it, then prove that it is "most" of the same.

    Sadly, I've seen the opposite; or those many inclined to actually say they are "capitalist"... seem to resist promoting the general welfare more than others,

    I know you believe what you are saying, but I don't buy it really.
     
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    I don't care if you buy it or not. You, like RWF judge the whole by a few personal experiences. In my 78 years I have seen some of the unscrupulous "capitalists" you are talking about, but over the long haul they fail.

    Full Definition of CAPITALISM


    : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    That's fine. After all of this semi-useless discussion is over, we'll battle it out at the polls... just as Americans always have before.

    It may take some time, but right/wrong are typically winnowed-out in 'practical' ways.
     
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    Agreed! That is why capitalism has outlasted every other attempt at another economic system. Seeing as how I am a democrat we likely will be voting for the same things. I am just not as bitter and naïve as you and your buddy RWF
     
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    I may seem "bitter" within this forum, but actually I take virtually all American politics in stride (for a few decades now). I don't carry this stuff to bed with me; not by any means; nor do I expect things to always go 'my' way.

    I vote... and what will be will be. Can't put too much emotion into all of this stuff; it really is unhealthy to do that.
     
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    you did not "lose your shirt", when they socialized their losses onto your back. Simultaneously, those privileged folks, who caused the problems, gained billions.
    And you approve, because you feel safe.
     
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    It may only be the cognitive dissonance of the right that causes that; everyone should know that a Pope may advocate for the socialism of a divine Commune of Heaven on Earth, over the right's insistence on the Hellish conditions on Earth on a potentially, for-profit basis.
     
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    Nope; some progressives on the left may still have high hopes and pipe dreams that the right will finally evolve into beings who are bearing true witness to what they have claimed in public venues, for so many centuries.
     
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    I have pointed out that I am a moderate, a democrat. But I see more extremism on the far left than I do on the far right. Both extremes are on the wrong side of the issues.
     
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    Jamie Dimon doesn't care who wins the next election. His boys will get handed the keys to the castle regardless.
     
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    Only due to your special pleading Mr.Smith, since we should be warning Will Robinson concerning your custom and habit of diagnosing the Body politic.
     
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    I wonder how many people suggesting that people work three jobs actually do so themselves. After all, you're either a parasite or a producer.

    I also wonder why those complaining about the abundance of full-time jobs (allegedly replacing part-time jobs) are encouraging others to get them.

    Ayn Rand, the champion of predatory, unregulated capitalism, ended up living on welfare. She learned the hard way that, in a sink-or-swim society, some people float to the bottom.
     
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    I have also pointed out Daniel, that you are the only one doing the special pleading because you are the one without an argument.
     
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    There are many things about Ayn Rand that rankle my sensitivities but your comment is not correct. She did accept her social security because it was her's. It was not welfare, it was the return of her own contributions with interest. To equate social security with welfare is the drum beat of the conservative extremists who want to eliminate that mandatory program which has kept millions of the elderly and disabled from abject poverty. She also accepted Medicare as a right for those who paid premiums for all those years. I don't know if she used it, but she did not condemn it.
     
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    Yes, Mr.Smith, you were pleading, specially, at the time. Should we sound any alarm for Will Robinson?
     
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    Wealthy men lose their money, only difference is nobody cares.
     
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    Why should the left care if it may mean that potentially, one more "market participant" may gain admittance to a hypothetical, divine commune of Heaven.
     
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    Since special pleading means assertion without argument, and since I have had a great argument in that I agree with the constitution and the supreme court I am not special pleading. You on the other hand have never have never had an argument. All you have done in gun control and about socialism is to make assertions which cannot be supported by any reasonable source. Clearly it is you and you alone special pleading, appealing to ignorance, and making assertions that are not fact or argument.
     
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    Simply claiming that without an actual rebuttal, is a form of special pleading.
     
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    I have given you lots of rebuttal, proving you are wrong. I never make empty claims. So lets try again. The 2nd amendment gives individuals the right to keep and bear arms and the USSC has agreed in Heller and McDonald.

    Now as to special pleading, since you have never, not one time, provided argument with facts it is you who continue to special plead. You have no argument, therefore all you do is special plead. It is obvious you cannot read and understand English, and you don't like the USSC decisions. How about Roe v Wade, do you like it?

    Are you going to come back with the same old lame about par (2) or the second amendment only means with the militia? Those arguments have been categorically proved wrong.
     
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    Keep and bear cannot be the same as acquire and posses, or they would be interchangeable in State Constitutions as well.
     
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    Same old same old garbage. Why should a state constitution have to have it at all if the US Constitution has it so clear as it does? You don't make any sense Daniel. Why don't you answer the question I asked?
     
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    Because, the specific Terms, Acquire and Posess, are nowhere to be found in our Second Article of Amendment to our supreme law of the land.
     
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