U;tra- Rich are screwing the middle class and the poor

Serving in the military saving sorry butts is not socialism.

Didn't say that either. If you want to respond to what I say, quote it such that it is there for all to see.

No one, and yes, the business owner would be gone pronto.

Raising it isn't bad, but not raising it again before all of the higher wages are inflated is. The minimum wage should be automatically raised IAW the very first increase in other wages and/or the CPI.

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I agree with that statement. But the fact is, garbage has not been the acceptable standard.

 

In conclusion...'standards' are subjective, and shouldn't be determined by those that are forced to be subjected to them. Sorry, Walmart IS a garbage standard for the poor slobs that are unfortunate enough to have to be employed there (and I use the term 'employed' very, very loosely).

Without public funding, the military wouldn't exist. True?

 

Fact, the middle class needs a resurgence. How? Most will have to train for better skills. When they do and start making more money, their employers will gain as well. Skills and good pay at the bottom and in the middle translate into happier workers and more profits at the top.. And we have had a long business cycle, down since 2006 and without good government monetary and fiscal policy to contribute to growth and higher wages.. And yes, Walmart is a great engine for keeping millions of low skilled labor employed, and at jobs which pay more than the could get elsewhere. Where to go? To the bank, because that is a fact.

I don't know what you are talking about in the rest of your post, but it makes no sense at all.

 

So you would rather those unskilled laborers would be unemployed without even subsistence wage?

Of course that is true, but it still isn't socialism. There is nothing produced in the government, and the military is for defense...though it has been ineffectively used in recent years.

 

I see. So, the RH, for say, the local hospital, who has worked there for 30 years, now needs to 'get more education', in order to compete with less qualified, less educated, green CHEAP, nurses? (for example). That 50 some year old, who has worked for the corporate monopoly for all these years, getting ready to retire, has to go back to school, to insure their continued employment? That 50 something worker who has dedicated their life to a particular corporation, now has to go back to school, or be 'let go', in order to compete with cheap, highly profitable kids, coming out of school, simply because they 'work cheap'.

Sorry, but our system is completely screwed up, IMO, and it needs to evaporate.

 

I'm against high profit margins through exploitation, yes. Call it whatever you like. I'm not against military people, do not get me wrong. I'm just sayin' that it isn't about anything 'private' at all. It's about ALL of us. Without public financing to insure its continued existence, it cannot sustain, and with corporations demanding higher and higher profits, and paying lower and lower wages, how long will it be before those publicly funded sources dry up? I guess we just 'put it on the tab' huh?

 

Nope, not what I said nor what I meant. But the 50 year old medical field worker who does not up date his skills will never treat me. All workers need to keep their skills current, and if they don't they get pushed out over time. Tenure is never an excuse to keep someone or pay them more money. Only competence commands that right.

 

I am too.

The only way publicly funded actions will dry up is if corporations and people do not make enough profits or wages to pay the taxes to fund them. Sure, It would be nice if the small % of exploitative corporations stopped, but throwing the baby out with the bath water doesn't help anything.

 

Yes..you want that fresh, green, CHEAP, glorified bedpan changer working swing shifts that knows nothing to treat you, versus a skilled, competent nurse, that might actually know what they're doing with some experience to back it up, treating you. I can see the logic in that. Profitable too!

 

I maintain that the corporate 'smash and grab, take all you can, right here, right now' climate that exists and thrives today, isn't a system worth saving. It's completely cancerous and needs to die.

 

No, I don't want that fresh, green, cheap glorified bedpan changer working longs shifts to treat me. I don't want a lazy, tenured person whose skills are outdated blundering around my person or my business, angry because they aren't the highest paid one on the ward. I want a fully qualified, updated, skilled person taking care of me. I want a skilled worker working in my business and so do most corporate managers, and I and they are willing to pay the price for their updated skills in the process.

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I agree with that, except I have not witnessed it to be a majority of businesses today, and we actually have a good system except for the malingering and lazy and jealous people that let their skills get dull and still are expecting to be advanced, and lest you take that personally, I am not trying to suggest you are but there are a lot of them out there and I be damned if I have any pity for their self made failures.

 

They right does not mind claiming to subscribe to Iron Age morals but only as long as they only apply to the least wealthy; regarding "work or die".

 

I wonder if rightwingers think that israel should stop milking off american tax payers and support themselves? No cause they believe in fairytales.

 

What are you talking about? Your response to my post makes no sense at all.

 

Correct. Many of the responses here and by other Conservatives... prove that they do NOT want you to shoot up the flares which EXPOSE their positions or what they are doing (in the dark).

 

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