Ukraine Bombs Waste Storage Site Inside Zaporozhye Nuclear Plant

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  1. submarinepainter

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    because we are a superpower!
     
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    It is often difficult speaking with Americans about world issues and even american domestic issues seem to confuse most of them. But let’s not go into that stuff.

    1977-78. My experience in Botswana was only a couple of days in Lobatse, Gabarone and Francis Town. I was living in Rhodesia at the time but rather than travel my normal hitch-hiking route from the RSA back to Rhodesia through Beitbridge I decided once to hitch up to Botswana and then hitch and rail to Plum Tree. Apartheid in South Africa was a really, really terrible thing and even though it was less oppressive in Rhodesia it was still the white man’s mindset. Going into Botswana I felt none of it but I suppose if I’d stayed longer I‘d be able to say for sure. Anyway, the short time I was in Botswana was nice. I had many discussions with the Tswanas and I was sad to leave. I might have stayed longer in the region but conscription was looming and I definitely was not going to stay long enough for them to put me into a uniform. My attitude probably would have caused me a lot of trouble with the security police and then I’d really be in a world of hurt so I left Africa before they could conscript me. I have travelled about 75% of Africa and the people of Botswana and Kenya will remain in my heart forever. Have you been to Botswana yourself?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol: :laughing:
     
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    That's what you told the Koreans, the Vietnamese and the Somalis. Anyway, if you need such a large swathe of geographical "buffer" then I failed to see how that sort of insecurity makes you a super anything.
     
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    I've never been to Africa. Thank you for your story though, to go there before I die is all that really matters.
     
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    Apparently America needed a buffer in the Central African Republic....go figure. (Yes Reagan did actually send military aid to Chad in the hope of destabilising Libya and Ghadaffi)
     
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    Wha' cha waitin' fer?

    Really?
     
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    Finances bro.

    Yes, France and America had a rivalry in terms of who could influence Chad. Turned out the French had the bigger impression but only this month the French have been removed from the region. There's quite a shift in European influence in the sahel ATM. It appears Africa is preferring russian assistance as opposed to western. Apparently the Europeans have only helped to destabilise by way of assassinations and flooding Libya with heavy artillery that has been picked up by all kinds of rebel groups.
     
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    Yes, many people who don't know Russian and Ukraine history believe to Putin propaganda. I wonder which will be the next country Putin will decide to free from 'nazis'? Poland? Latvia? Estonia? Finland?
     
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    None, because he has run out of non-NATO former Eastern Bloc countries that are within reach of his third-rate thug army. They can't even fight their way to Moldova at this point.
     
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    I can provide the memorandum whereby zelensky private militia state that he will "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade against Semite-led sub humans"?

    And fyi, Finland is the most racist country on earth according to facts that Ican provide.
     
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    Zelensky private militia? Where did you hear about “Zelensky private militia”? In Russian Pravda? In Sputnik? Please let me know.
    And where did you find “zelensky private militia state that he will "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade against Semite-led sub humans"”?
    And where did you find that Finland is the most racist country on earth?
    Please, show me this information.
     
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    Sure we do.
     
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    Is a check alright or should I send you cash? :lol:

    Well, Chad was a French colony as was most of that region so it makes sense France would have had the most influence.


    China has been making some huge inroads into Africa so I'm a bit surprised you say that Russia is the new boys on the block. But of course, it was Britain and France that created most of Africa's problems so ..... yeah I can imagine that Russia might be in a position to make some waves. But on the other hand weapons supply is always susceptible to smuggling and falling into the wrong hands.

    Most will agree that Africa is a kettle of corruption and that they have no one to blame but themselves but it was colonial "white rule" that set the example before they left. Add to it tribal animosity .......
     
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    Russia had no rights whatsoever to dictate to other nations what alliances they can and can't join.
     
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    No more than the US has a right to tell Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya or dozens of other countries over decades how they shall govern themselves.

    Russia may not have the right, but they do seem to have the power to tell Ukrainian government how it shall not govern. It shall not be allowed to harass and kill the people of Donbass. Mao was right--a certain amount of power comes out of the barrel of a gun.

    Russia is demonstrating what we learned in WWII. The only way to deal with Nazis is by force.
     
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    But to harass and kill people of Donbas is allowed for Russia, right?
     
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    Neither do we.
     
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    Much more than dozens.

    UKRAINE :below: :below: :below:
    ... they do have the geographic necessity.
     
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    who cares about a murdering commie like Mao! Russia has murdered children and the elderly, and I know the US has done some wrong, but we have also done some good
     
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    I see you watch Elensky TV.
     
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    Sure we do. Other nations take aide from us, enjoy our protections, and benefit immensely from the U.S.

    Thus we have the right to do as we want on the world stage.
     
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    Russia is doing good right now, as we type. They have responded to the violent Ukrainian Nazis with violence, to protect legitimate Russian interests. Russia holds the moral high ground in this conflict.

    The US has not held the moral high ground in its military operations since WWII. The US routinely conducts military aggression against countries around the world.
     
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    All falsehoods on your part. You know you can't simply declare that the Russians "hold the moral high ground" by claiming the presence of Nazis in Ukraine. "Nazis" do not automatically validate any military aggression.

    The U.S. didn't hold the moral high ground in the Korean War? Have you forgotten is was the North Koreans who stormed across the border into South Korea and that the U.S. had the approval and official sanction of the United Nations in fighting there?
     
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    So, a White Supremacist nation attacking another supposedly White Supremacist nation, that actually invites Africans to higher education there, is supposed to have the higher moral ground in this conflict?

    Russia entire army is infiltrated with White Supremacists as well as their government institutions. Just because Putin farts doesn't mean he is speaking a moral truth. The only reasons Russia attacked Ukraine is their paranoia that Ukraine could possibly have Western weapons on their border AND they wanted a larger portion of Ukraine for themselves.

    Anything Putin or Russia says otherwise is just media fodder for their sheep internally. Nobody in the entire world outside Russia believes this Nazi crap outside of a few sheep and trolls repeating Russian propaganda.
     
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