ukraine's Azov 'brigade' returns to front

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Bill Carson, Aug 17, 2023.

  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So what? Russians and their collaborators get what they deserve.
     
    zoom_copter66 likes this.
  2. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    9,080
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Yup....true.

    Much like the dog chasing the vehicle....nipping at the tire....biting the tire a little too hard, and getting the snout pinched.:laughing:
     
    Jack Hays likes this.
  3. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's an old (and useful) saying.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,068
    Likes Received:
    27,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Forward Into the Past: Forbidden Books In Russia

    May 16, 2023

    Since Feb. 24, 2022, the Russian book market has faced many problems: rising prices for paper, logistics, new laws against so-called LGBT propaganda and foreign influence, and the refusal of foreign authors and publishers to work with Russia. A writer’s anti-war position may also be a make it difficult to find a publisher.

    Officially, Russian authorities don’t pull books from bookstores, but there is self-censorship at every part of the book-to-bookstore chain. Publishing houses don’t take on new books by ‘undesirable’ authors, and bookstores pull books written by them off their shelves. As the situation in the publishing industry grows more and more similar to the situation in the U.S.S.R. many Russian writers have to find other ways to publish their works.

    ... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/16/forward-into-the-past-forbidden-books-in-russia-a81105

    The bit about a writer's anti-war position is very reminiscent of the experiences written about by Hermann Hesse in his novel Der Steppenwolf, where his main protagonist, like himself, was anti-war in Germany during the interwar period, i.e. the lead-up to WWII, and was attacked and ostracized for it. Russia operates the same way, lacking rule of law and an equivalent to the 1st Amendment. People are fined and locked up just for protesting. Books by "undesirables" are not published, same as in the Soviet times. It is an Orwellian dystopia in real life.
     
    Jack Hays likes this.
  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,068
    Likes Received:
    27,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Wrong on every count.
     
    Jack Hays likes this.
  6. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    "Most Americans oppose Congress authorizing additional funding to support Ukraine in its war with Russia, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, as the public splits over whether the US has already done enough to assist Ukraine.

    "Overall, 55% say the US Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding.

    "And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more.

    "A poll conducted in the early days of the Russian invasion in late February 2022 found 62% who felt the US should have been doing more"

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=Overall, 55% say the US,say it should do more.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2023
    Eleuthera likes this.
  7. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    What do right-wing, neo-Nazis in Ukraine deserve for their contribution to the current bloodletting?

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/31/partnering-neo-nazis-ukraine-history/

    "Volodymyr Zelensky defeated Petro Poroshenko in the 2019 election on a platform that included making peace with Russia and signing the Minsk Agreements.

    "The Minsk Agreements would have granted a degree of autonomy to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of the Donbas that had voted for independence from Ukraine after the 2014 US backed coup put a government in power that was handpicked by the US and that was pro-West and anti-Russian.

    "It was intense pressure from the far right wing ultra-nationalists that bent Zelensky from a Minsk backer into the shape of a Minsk rejecter.

    "Under that pressure from neo-Nazi parties that have large power that is disproportionate to their small support, Zelensky abandoned his campaign peace promise and refused to talk to the leaders of the Donbas and implement the Minsk Agreements."
     
    Bill Carson, Eleuthera and Vitaliy like this.
  8. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-...ly referred,often irrational hatred of Russia.

    "Anti-Russian sentiment, commonly referred to as Russophobia, is dislike or fear or hatred of Russia, Russian people, Russian culture,[1] or Russian policy.[2] The Collins English Dictionary defines it as intense and often irrational hatred of Russia.[3]

    "It is often related to anti-Soviet and occasionally also to anti-Slavic sentiment.

    "The opposite of Russophobia is Russophilia.

    "Historically, Russophobia has included state-sponsored and grassroots mistreatment and discrimination, as well as propaganda containing anti-Russian sentiment.[4][5]

    "In Europe, Russophobia was based on various more or less fantastic fears of Russian conquest of Europe, such as those based on The Will of Peter the Great forgery documented in France in the 19th century and later resurfacing in Britain as a result of fears of a Russian attack on British-colonized India in relation to the Great Game.

    "Pre-existing anti-Russian sentiment in Germany is considered to be one of the factors influencing treatment of Russian population under German occupation during World War II."
     
  9. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Most Corrupt Country on the Planet:

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-defense-minister-reznikov-umerov-52989c433d6fd96c38f017dd1ccf0991

    "KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov submitted a letter of resignation on Monday after President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he would be replaced and named his successor.

    "Oleksii Reznikov’s removal follows a scandal around the defense ministry’s procurement of military jackets.

    "It was not the first similar case during the ongoing war."
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  10. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Their "contribution" is a Kremlin fantasy.
     
    Durandal likes this.
  11. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Kremlin hopes to win in Congress the battles they have lost in Ukraine. They will not succeed.
     
    Durandal likes this.
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,068
    Likes Received:
    27,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Entirely irrelevant and a bad attempt at deflection.
     
  13. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,068
    Likes Received:
    27,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Far less corrupt than ruZZia, of course.
     
    Jack Hays likes this.
  14. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    So stop sending money and weapons to Russia too.
     
  15. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    No Nazis in Ukraine?
    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/04/biden-officials-ukraine-rally-nazi/

    "USAID’s Samantha Power joined EU and US officials who rallied at the Lincoln Memorial at a pro-war demonstration organized by a clique of Ukrainian activists that have described themselves as 'true Banderites' and 'Right Sektor’s Washington DC branch.'”
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  16. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    "The Kremlin wins in Ukraine regardless of what the US Congress does or doesn't do.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../ukraine-russia-war-live-updates/70475598007/

    "Steven Myers, an Air Force veteran who served on the State Department's Advisory Committee on International Economic Policy under two secretaries of State, told USA TODAY that one of the West’s narratives is that Putin planned to conquer Ukraine and continue west if not stopped.

    "But Myers argues that Russia's military tactics have been 'completely inconsistent with conquest.'

    "The agenda was, is and will always be to keep Ukraine out of NATO at all costs, he said."
     
  17. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Whining abourt "forbidden books in Russia" is equally irrelevant to the US policy of fighting for regime change in Moscow to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.
     
  18. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    9,080
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    That agenda has failed miserably.....Ukraine will be in NATO.

    Just like Mafiosi vowed to keep Finland outta NATO.....how's that going....LOL.?
     
    Dayton3 likes this.
  19. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is correct.
     
  20. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yawn. Another fool.
     
    Durandal likes this.
  21. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,837
    Likes Received:
    18,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  22. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,068
    Likes Received:
    27,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2023
    Jack Hays and zoom_copter66 like this.
  23. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    17,453
    Likes Received:
    9,080
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Yep....there's 3 candidates on the ballot though?....oh wait yes....

    1) V.Putin
    2) V.Putin
    3) V.Putin

    Gee...who to choose?

    I think in all honesty....Putin is "Tsar" for life.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2023
    Durandal likes this.
  24. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2013
    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    400
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
  25. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,968
    Likes Received:
    11,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Many if not most Americans have no clue about the Minsk Agreements, no clue about Russia's efforts to avoid war in Ukraine.

    When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.
     
    Bill Carson likes this.

Share This Page