US Airways slammed after flight attendant refuses hang Army Ranger's uniform jacket

I never hid my politics whatsoever. There were plenty of heated political discussions, but there were always voices on both sides. I never stood alone. Mike Boorda... the first enlisted man ever to be CNO was a huge liberal. We'd always kick butt on political discussions in the wardroom.

Kerry spoke of American atrocities in a stupid war. Just because I wore the uniform did not mean I had to think that every military escapade the suits in DC got us into was an honorable one. Vietnam certainly was not. Invading Iraq wasn't either.

 

Once the passenger manifest is done, you can't have people switching cabins -- this is a post 9-11 security measure. So it is not a simple matter of simply moving bodies. The FAA is very strict about this. US Air apologized because they had a PR situation on their hands.

Look, I don't think the soldier was being unreasonable in his request. But rules are rules. Should we throw out the rules just because we want to feel warm and fuzzy?

And FFS -- this is a NEWS STORY? Really Fox? Gimme a break...

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You think the liberals are the ones criticizing drone attacks in the M.E.? Considering the part of the CIC?

 

I am accused of that ROUTINELY on boards and have been since the AOL days...

I am NOW 63, STILL the product of a career MILITARY FATHER and I'm still living near a military town. And since I went to college had 'dependent' status for 22 years. I did work for 8 US military bases for 14 years. I had base stickers on my car for another 12 years. I did work for GITMO for 14 years. I've been to GITMO (before George Bush's version of GITMO). AND I AM A LIBERAL. I guess I'm supposed to hate the military. (*)(*)(*)(*), another MEMO I didn't get!

 

the first class passenger made the claim that it is not company policy and US Airways has not disputed the claim either.

I agree it is much ado about nothng. However, this is simply a story about bad customer service. The flight attendant, I believe, handled the situation badly. I do not think it was intentional, but the end result influenced the passenger.

Upgrading to first class usually happens before boarding, not when passengers are already on the plane. The reason is that the passenger manifest has to be given to the FAA liaison officer on the ground before that plane is allowed to be taxied to start its enginges. Chainging at the last minute requires paperwork and that takes time. Time the airline does not have.

That being said, if a soldier can upgrade to first class, it has to come out of his pocket and not on a government issued credit card. This is in 5 CFR. U.S. military fall under those same guidelines, generally.

There are coach closets located on the airple, but it depends on the airplane. They are much smaller than the first class closet and usually have other equipment in them or that the flight attendant puts their belongings in them as well. But they are there now in some airplanes.

 

And those "first class passengers" had no problem with it, so why do you?

 

Warm and fuzzy about rules? Really? We have a government that encourages millions of people to break the law by illegally crossing our border, is that the kind of warm and fuzzy rules you're talking about? I could name many more of those type examples

Drone attacks and the criticizing the usage is not the same as....

Liberal veterans vilify today’s soldiers to the disgrace of the nation

http://www.examiner.com/article/lib...oday-s-soldiers-to-the-disgrace-of-the-nation

Notice there were no conservatives in that article saying those things about the American soldier

 

This had nothing to do with company policy anyway:

 

Which is exactly the reason I made this a partisan thread, she obviously had a problem with the military, and only liberals verbally attack soldiers like that.

Good post peoshi, you are exactly right, that attitude had nothing to do with company policy

 

So... do as I say, not as I do?

I'm simply saying that I think you are being a little pedantic.

 

The passengers do not make the rules.

 

Whether other customers were appalled or not... it is most certainly policy that the first class cabin and the things in it are reserved for first class passengers.

 

Bingo!

 

You would think that he demanded to be upgraded to First Class because he was in the military by the sounds of some of these posts. ALL he did was ask if his jacket could be hung up. He did not ask that it be put in First Class. The stewardess was definitely rude. Many passengers including those in First Class asked her why she was doing that. First class passengers told her they would switch places with him, but he politely refused. Many passengers started tweeting about the incident and it went viral. They also complained to the airlines. The soldier never complained. It must have been bad if the passengers were tweeting. I hope that stewardess is reprimanded.

 

If you are saying no conservative dislikes the military, that actually says conservative as a group is brainwashed.

Because there are lots of reasons to dislike the military.

 

Do you have any actual proof that it is company policy?

It's funny US Airways did not mention that in their apology.

 

Actually, what is pedantic is you defending the disparaging of an American soldier. My point of this thread is exampled by the answers and excuses given here. The first class passengers saw that she was out of line, the soldier did not demand anything, but the response he got is typical response to a our military from liberals who despise them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...dal-Filled-Jacket-Not-A-First-Class-Passenger



"Her response wasn't that there's not space in the coat closet or 'I've hung too many jackets up,' said first-class passenger Brian Kirby, who was also on the four-hour flight. "It was simply, 'Our airline policy says I'm not going to do it, so I'm not going to do it.' I was really appalled at not only the way she looked at him but the way she spoke to him -- in an angry way."
Other first-class passengers who witnessed the incident then offered the decorated service member their seats, but claimed he humbly refused. There are other reports that the flight attendant shouted at fliers who also asked her to hang Sgt. Marle's jacket so that it wouldn't wrinkle.
U.S. Airways first-class passenger Jon Dahlberg reported that he took matters into his own hands: He hung Sgt. Marle's coat beside his own seat.
"I walked back up and hung the jacket simply behind my seat. There's a difference between policy and doing what is right," he said.

 

And you and your buddy believe in blind adoration and agreeing to anything you're told like sheep!

 

You don't even know what pedantic means.

But again, do as I say, not as I do. You said that since we allow illegals to crash the gate, then this airline should abandon its own policies so we can all feel warm and fuzzy.

This incident is one thing: Bad customer service. But you (by way of Fox News) have tried to turn this into some kind of national incident. So the flight attendant was a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) -- in my 1.5 million miles of flying, I've encountered some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)y ones too. Big deal. I didn't call Fox News to cry about it.

 

I have 1.5 million miles on American Airlines -- who now own US Airways -- and I can tell you that I know for a fact it is American's policy. It is generally the policy of every airline I know of to limit access to anything relating to first class to actual first class passengers. I am an Executive Platinum level elite status flyer and I almost always get the upgrade due to my status. On the few occasions I have not, I have asked and also been denied having my coat hung up in the first class closet -- even after flashing my Exec Plat card which is supposed to do something for me -- at least it gets me in the Admirals' Club... but it doesn't get my suit jacket hung up IN THE FIRST CLASS CLOSET unless I am actually seated in first class.

What do I do? I can't have my jacket wrinkled either... I am meeting with important customers, contractors, engineers, and retail buyers. I have to look my best. How do I solve this crisis of not having my jacket hung up in first class?????? I carefully hang it on the hook in front of my tray table. And when I get off the plane, my jacket is just fine.

Much ado about NOTHING. Move along here people... nothing to see here.

And when you're issuing an apology for PR purposes, you don't trot out your policy, FFS. That's PR 101.

 

Fine. I get that the soldier was not the one who started all this and I'm happy to stand corrected on that point. But again -- the fact that Fox News decided to cover this as "news" is ridiculous. Bad customer service happens all the time. This is not some conspiracy to disrespect the military. It's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)y flight attendant probably on her period who had to deal with some drunk (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) on her last flight or some screaming kids running up and down the aisle.

 

Every protest of the military is a liberal

 

Me and my buddy? And who would that be? The new liberal meme for respecting and honoring the military is blind adoration.

God you make this so easy

Liberal veterans vilify today’s soldiers to the disgrace of the nation

http://www.examiner.com/article/lib...oday-s-soldiers-to-the-disgrace-of-the-nation

Unfortunately, there are some people who do not appreciate those who come to their rescue and defend them from terrorists, criminals, and disasters until those evils come to their doors. There are many who call soldiers “baby killers” and ridicule police as “pigs.” Politicians use their service to blackmail citizens for more taxes. And when they see in their rear view mirror those red lights flashing on their way to an emergency to help someone in need, there are those who curse them for disrupting their driving.

 

There are generalizations and stereotypes that don't pan out, and there are those that do.

The generalization that liberals despise the military is one that will prove true over 99% of the time.

Therefore BroncoBilly comment is valid.

 

You didn't need me to make it easy.... it seems quite easy for you to rant and rave the same old trite tired crap we've heard for years....blah, blah, blah...it's so 60's !!!

 

This turned political for me because he is a soldier, a highly decorated first sergeant at that. Your defense has been no big deal, again making my point more clear

Also don't think you're the sharpest crayon in the box, your use of pedantic was you being ostentatious, trying to accuse me of being finicky