Vaccination after infection? Help me understand.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it doesn't seem to mutate much, other than later becoming shingles
     
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  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely makes sense. The experimental treatment only targets one protein on the virus. The virus job is to survive so it will mutate to avoid the treatment but I am sure you know more than a virologist.
     
  3. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anthropomorphizing a virus is silly, and leads to bad conclusions like the one you're all too happy to jump to. The virus has no job, it just is. How does targeting a single protein on the virus lead to new variants? And if the vaccines supposedly aren't effective, how can an argument against them be that they will lead to vaccine-resistent variants?

    The hundreds of virologists who disagree with Dr. Montagnier seem to know better than him, and they can at least explain the mechanisms behind their reasoning. Dr. Montagnier just makes assertions without supporting them with any underlying biochemistry.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone doesn’t know what Anthropomorphizing means.
     
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  5. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suggest getting yourself a dictionary. Poor deflection on your part: 4/10
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suggest you study a little more about viruses and life in general.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I can see that in crematoriums in India that have melted down from 24 hour use, families and neighborhoods having to makeshift funeral pyres with scraped-up wood, and hundreds of bodies ay a time floating down the river.

    People dying of having no oxygen to breath even in hospitals, much less at home or on the streets are part of the charm, I suppose! Somehow, hydroxy just hasn't made it to India!
     
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  8. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It does not take a Nobel laureate to understand that these toxic concoctions are not vaccines using traditional legal and medical definitions.

    First corrupt the language. What follows naturally is the corruption of thought processes.

    You demonstrate corrupt thought processes. I'll pass.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I take it you have never been to India.
     
  10. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's funny considering the misread, misunderstood, and just plain nonsensical stuff you've tried to pass off in this thread and others.
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The virus has the same job as any other living thing, to reproduce.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    More projection.
     
  13. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Viruses are technically between living and non-living, and using the term "job" is just silly anthropomorphizing that muddies the water.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More pathetic deflection. Without facts on your side, the tactics you have to resort to are just so predictable and boring.
     
  15. Hoosier8

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    You don't even know the facts which are unknown at this time but hey, you think you are smarter than virologists so...
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I base my opinions on the many virologists who have spoken about the technology, the research they cite to support their claims, and the results that we are seeing. I can't imagine just picking the tiny handful of "experts" that agree with my ideas and ignoring the orders of magnitude more who don't.
     
  17. Hoosier8

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    Of course you couldn't imagine listening to anything that does not fit your confirmation bias. You have already made that apparent but that is not science, that is politics. Getting the vaccine based on one sided viewpoints means you have not give informed consent because you cannot be informed listening to only the dogma.
     
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    That's not what I said. For real, are you trying to respond to what I write, or just whatever voice you hear in your head when you look at my posts?
     
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    Seeing how you so easily dismiss opposing scientific views what is one to think?
     
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    But you ignore virologists like Mikovits and Montagnier, the ones who dissent from the official narrative. And you sure ain't the Lone Ranger in that regard! :lol:
     
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    India has been making use of ivermectin, and if you haven't noticed, their numbers saw a quick peak and are now rapidly decreasing ever since the ivermectin usage. Ivermectin works (as does hydroxy, but they have different mechanisms behind why they work). Hydroxy involves the spike proteins themselves, while ivermectin involves the ace-2 receptors that the spike proteins attach to (and doesn't allow those proteins to attach).

    This whole **** show could've all been avoided if we had just promoted and widely distributed ivermectin (and hydroxy), which are both SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, rather than forcing people to wear masks that don't work against viruses, social distancing that doesn't stop a virus, lock downs that don't stop a virus, plastic wrap and plastic barriers that don't stop a virus, injections that are meant to harm people rather than stop a virus, and on and on...
     
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    America's Frontline Doctors tried to tell the truth about all that, but they were quickly demonized by the media and Covid Inquisition medical industry, and a fearful and rabid public responded in kind.
     
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    You assume that your natural immunity will protect you from other strains or stay with you a long time. The reason we have flu shots is because "natural immunity" is sometimes "no immunity" for the next round.
     
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    Another issue for another "round." I'm all for vaccines. I just think that those who don't want vaccines have a reasonable position as well.
     
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    Last time I heard, there were 5 different strains circulating in my area. rounds overlap
     

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