Virus death rate is .5 precent

Yes, like with economics, we cannot play out the covid scenario with controls, i.e. with and without lockdown in parallel. Therefore, everyone can pick their position and assume that they are right.

However, we do have data of exponential growth before the lockdown. Exponential growth then eventually ceased after the lockdown, as expected. Now, do you think the virus just magically stopped spreading, reducing its R0 because of the goodness of its heart, or was the R0 reduced because it couldn't easily hop to the next host? I go wit the scientifically plausible explanation, which is the latter one.

 

Yeah but....
If you get a vaccine you don't die.
See the difference?

 

So? What do you honestly believe this is telling you? Hiding somehow made all the bad germ go buh-bye? All you are doing by hiding and living in a sterile environment is weakening you immune system and when you finally make you grand entrance to the pathogenic world you will be vulnerable to far more things then when you first locked yourself up

 

The healthy can't hide in the cave forever. But everybody won't venture out all at once so it's okay. The corona gonna take some, now or later, and there's no way around that.

 

That's not true Ronv! If you're health is compromised you have a better then average chance to die from complication regardless of vaccine, that's a fact!

 

The irony here is that mass testing could help determine the true fatality death, but it is Trump's incompetence in this area that is actually working against the "open the economy now" argument.

On the other hand, saying there is only one known COVID 19 case in a county is like saying there is only one zombie in the night club. Things can change very quickly.

 

Yup, you know the score!!

 

You gotta balance when the vaccine will be ready, and if it will even work, with when they gonna throw your furniture on the front lawn or the men in white come to take you away.

 

It's no ones fault, the entire world needed testing before we did, that's a fact! So just how many test kits you think were available in world with just under EIGHT BILLION people? Maybe a little common sense approach to the real scope of this pandemic.. The U.S. clearly wasn't the first to contract the virus and we certainly DONT deserve any more of anything just because we are the U.S. I hope that doesn't burst your entitlement bubble lil bro

 

This would be the narrative from MSNPC, CNN. ABC, etc, if Hillary were in office.

 

So what's your point?

 

@TOG 6 has me on ignore, but just remind him that 60,000 dead Americans in five weeks - despite extremely significant pandemic control measures - is proof enough of the very significant threat posed by this virus.

 

The denominator can rise at a rate that is roughly 20x faster than the nominator and the mortality rate would still stay at 5%.

 

His POINT was pretty clear. The lock down slowed the virus.

Testing will tell us by how much and where it is now

 

Yep. That's the trick.

 

I think when the unemployment $600/week bonuses (on top of unemployment) run out August 1st, and once the stimulus checks have been long forgotten, people will have less incentive to sit home blaming coronavirus for making them too scared to leave.

Unless, of course, overeating during quarantine raises our obesity numbers even higher, making more people more "higher risk" for COVID complications. Sigh. What a cycle......

 

If the Govs get the credit for SD then they get the blame for the issues of the response.

You want Trump to get all the blame and none of the credit. That will not fly.

For example if Cuomo gets credit for preventive measures in NY saving lives then he gets the blame for the large number of deaths in NY.

 

It's been running rampant

 

Oh, I forgot I was talking to the internet lawyer.
Sounds like Pence,
I told you there would be tests. I didn't tell you you could actually get them.

 

It will spread, it is just not nearly as deadly and you like to project that it is.

Meanwhile...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...rent-report-finds/ar-BB13k85V?ocid=spartandhp

 

Do you have any data to support that we "flattened the curve" to any statistically significant degree? You're a scientist. I'm sure you do, since you made an inference.
Can't wait to see it.

 

No. That ones on Trump. He forgot to lock the back door so NY got flooded with infected people from Europe.

 

A virus that is several times more lethal than the flu, and more contagious, is a very, very deadly threat.

 

It attaches to the good and bad yeasts that rise to 6000 ft. on the winds and then blows back down with the yeasts and gets you from afar.

 

The stock market and 300+ million people’s savings, plus untold businesses closing are more important than the lives lost. Someone under 50 and healthy is statistically immune to death from COVID. Look at the total number of deaths of those without underlying health problems. The vast majority are old and already sick. Younger healthy individuals dying are too few to even consider a blink in the grand scheme when far more die from something like drowning or even ordinary flu. In 2017-18 the flu killed around 80k. Do you remember? Probably not because we accepted that number as an unusually high year. No panic though at all. Not even a blip on anyone’s radar.

The old and sick can stay home. The rest can return to work with masks and social distancing guidelines and get the economy running again to recover the savings that the poor and sick require to live. But Those that stay home can’t live off the rest of us indefinitely. Sorry. And if you have no money because it’s all gone because we let the economy crash, then you all have nothing to live for anyway.