Virus surge hits New England despite high vaccination rates

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a point, because we might expect more of the people who have been vaccinated to live in higher population density areas where they would have been more likely to already have been infected.

    Whether enough people have been infected in the past in these areas to make much of a significant difference, I don't know. It is known the virus has been spreading silently and many of those who have been infected were asymptomatic and never knew they were infected.
     
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    Yup that's the info that squashes the vaxxers entire incomplete theoretical lie.. And the manipulation was far more then that, one in particular was "Cause of death" in 2020.. How these people allow themselves to ignore critical missing data speaks more about them then the OVERLORDS they kneel to ;)
     
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    Yup and according to the red cross almost 30% of donated blood collected from unvaxxed was positive for antibodies created from a covid infection..
     
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    Well I did that too, showing that the rate of contagion among the unvaccinated was several times higher than that (37 times higher in that set of data), but you dismissed it (unsurprisingly!) because it was data from a different state (convenient excuse you used; you would NEVER have raised the objection if that other state had showed the opposite; who exactly do you think you're fooling? Not me).

    With you, anything that remotely gives the impression that the vaccines are BAAAAAAAAD you uphold.
    Anything that correctly demonstrates that the vaccines are good, you dismiss.
    There is just no point in discussing these things with an anti-vaxxer like you, who posts lies and misinformation and who distorts everything.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Talk about a case of psychological self projection!

    Why does your side always accuse the other side of things that are more true of yourselves?
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Bait and switch, smoke and mirrors, covert op ;)
     
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    True of myself, how? You can see in my State of the Vaccines thread that I honestly addressed all the real (and some of them dangerous) side effects the vaccines have (Central Venous Sinus Thrombosis, transverse myelitis, myocarditis, etc.), and even spontaneously introduced some hypotheticals for future problems such as the concept of "original antigenic sin" and the concept of "antibody-dependent enhancement." No, I do not shy away from considering the downsides of vaccines, so, no, I'm not projecting anything. My comments on your posting style come from DIRECT observation of what you do; not from any projection.

    You just did what I said you do. I showed to you a study demonstrating 37 times higher odds of catching the virus among the unvaccinated, undermining your claim that the tiny odds of the vaccinated prove nothing... and you just summarily dismissed it.

    No, I don't need to project anything. We can simply see what you do.

    Not to forget the lies... such as posting a picture of a young girl disfigured by smallpox, and pretending that it was a picture of a girl having a dermatological reaction to the Covid-19 vaccine... That's who you are.
     
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    You get a booster. Case closed.
     
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    You get TWO within six months :) After that protection dwindles away.. Wanna talk about immune exhaustion, it's a thing, look it up, that's the down side to jacking your ass with boosters!
     
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    The same one you get with yearly flu shots ? It only happens when the virus mutates and the vaccines aren’t adjusted and tested for them. It’s about “evolution”. Never heard such whining about flu shots and measles….But somehow, deniers are still defending the idiot machine of the past president.
     
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    I think honesty has sailed in all this! It now comes down to common sense and those that parrot disinformation from manipulated sources and figures that actually boast knowledge in the field are actually the most contemptible in my world!
     
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    I’ll get mine shortly for safety till the trials like others can develop one for a year. But you’re free to sit and worry.
     
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    Common sense says no one but medical science knows what they are talking about, least of all fix news. You go with Tucker, I’ll listen to the cdc, JHU and the Mayo Clinic etc….just like ALL sane people do.
     
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    Nope, those are best when some herd immunity is present this vaccine doesn't achieve that! Also the vaccinated are super spreaders "asymptomatic" and are credited with the mutant variants..

    Again see Immune exhaustion
    When the immune system is exhausted – Scientific Scribbles (unimelb.edu.au)
     
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    And clearly they have presented you with disinformation you approve of ;)

    I don't watch fox news or Tucker
     
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    Name one thing concerning covid that the cdc has been wrong about….do it and I’ll show you where you made it up or still listen to Fix News. Go for it.
     
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    Herd immunity cannot be approached without vaccines, unless millions more die first ! So you are campaigning for more death ?
     
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    Ha ha
    Where did you get this made up stuff ? No one is more supper spreader then the unvaccinated.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Well, last night. The Game was on and you couldn’t.
     
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    but Joe woke up from a nap and told by the 4th now it's Christmas
    we do not need it for everyone

    and there is this New Zealand Easing COVID Lockdown, Admits It Cannot Eradicate Delta Variant (msn.com)
     
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    Um, I told you Sir, I don't watch fox or Tucker. Are insinuating that I'm a liar?
     
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    Wow, you really don't know all the facts do you, and these are posted all over the net an on this site Dannngggg Bro :roll:
     
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    Well they can be achieved with a vaccine that works.. That was Pfizer and Fauci first big lie ;)
     
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    Wow, what a bastion of knowledge a conservative forum is. Seriously, you think the more times BS is repeated….gee, it must be true.
     

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