Was Jesus God?

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  1. Bishadi

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    i've watched ted haggart slap morons on the forehead and the jiggle on the ground

    i will never understand why liars, believe they can, and have zero acceptance of being responsible for their actions
    then mark 10:17-19

    and quit lying with his name

    no he aint

    he didnt create a religion, idiots did

    he's in the dirt

    his words (gifts of knowledge) are what still live
     
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    I have that is why you have run out of lies.
     
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    Sorry I missed read your earlier post.


    That is very true, especially during that time to have a 12 yr old possess that kind of wisdom and knowledge was truly extraordinary for Jesus is the Son of God.

    Agree, :pray:
     
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    Yes the Dark Ages that Christianity work hard to save Europe and eventually they did succeeded from the barbarians, rough Christians, Muslims, bandits, and most of all from the black death it would be the church that would stand up to all of this the same way Jesus Christ and his followers did against the Pharisees, Romans and other Christian persecutors and tormentors.
     
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    john 14:15 `If ye love me, my commands keep,

    16 and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you -- to the age;

    17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him


    20 in that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you;

    was that known back then?

    25 `These things I have spoken to you, remaining with you,

    26 and the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and remind you of all things that I said to you

    29 `And now I have said [it] to you before it come to pass, that when it may come to pass, ye may believe;

    30 I will no more talk much with you, for the ruler of this world doth come, and in me he hath nothing



    If you love jesus, then know that it was not then as 'the times'.


    it is our time that knows 'we are one' and it is our time, that to reread the old material and combine what is applicably true to reality, is how to experience what is real.


    .

    jesus was not that 'last'

    nor was muhammad

    and the old stories of a day of unveiling, is now.

    it is us, 'we the people' (mankind), doing the apocalypse, right here on the net.


    'we' are it defining itself

    i just be the punk to do the work decades ago and have lived to combine the 'name' with experience, to assist the next generations in understanding.

    it's rather stupid easy, if you really sit back and think about it.

    be happy.

    it's time!
     
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    You better lie better than that because it is not working, the truth is too much for you to lied about, so far again you have not been able to present any facts that Jesus is not God.


    I have witness and accepted Jesus Christ not because of other opinions the only opinion that made my conviction towards Jesus stronger are the lies of those anti Christ.

    The Pharisees have roots 3 generations back too but they were hypocrites.

    Good for your grandpa for being good Christian, being a good Christian is not about what or how much you materially donate or give to the church it is about the spirit and standing up for God. The saints have ZERO gold to give to the church example Mother Theresa have nothing material to give to the church she is a true Catholic a Christian should be.

    Good nuns and preist.

    Because Muslims have seize control of it.

    You contradict yourself you said you have no problem with Jesus Christ and yet your post are all anti Christ, do you believe and accept Jesus Christ is the Son of God?


    It is you who is what is consider the inside threat.

    Again cherry picking verses instead of reading the whole Gospel at the same time Jesus acknowledge Peter's statement for knowing Jesus is the Son of God and for that Peter was assign the keys to Heaven and earth.
     
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    a 6 yr old with a bic lighter in the first century, wouldnt have been a son a god, but A GOD, just to be able to 'flic a bic"

    I was 16 when I learned the 'name' of god (math defining the trinity of nature (mass, energy, time); the process of nature)

    It's the name, mankind has been awaiting!


    Egyptians called it 'the key'
     
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    that's a lie

    the old books mentioned a lineage

    i so happen to have it (a Bacon bit)

    funny how popes, bishops and the religious leaders, aint setting the example.

    Funny how you aint setting an example.

    dont know. I dont do religion, i just know the commitment of the bloodlines
    because bigots are living out the prophecies; zionism oppressing the 'city'
    Sorry dood.

    Me being honest with myself and all of humanity and knowing jesus was not 'the' dood and that jesus is no more a son of god than mother theresa, is what truth reveals.

    Not that I am creating it or that a satan is enabling it. Truth is truth and beliefs are just that.

    how is that? I defend jesus, more than you've ever prehaps witnessed before.

    Claiming he is god, is using his name in vain (lying).

    Truth is always the 'inside threat'. Simply because you cannot hide or lie from it forever.

    i know the literature perhaps better than any single human being you know.

    i point out, what is good for understanding and the contributions that enable life everylasting; truth.

    were you there?

    did you see (witness) the conversation?

    no, you didnt

    the 'key' is the name of god

    and im that name holder, most all religious prophecy was talking about.

    and not the nice guy the morons want to believe.

    Knowledge enables judgment day!
     
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    You argue the same way you believe - like a child.

    But then, I know the bible tells you to set your intellect aside and be like a child. I'm just amazed at how readily this admonition from men of power is accepted by the little people. Be a good little sheep and just follow along! There's a good sheep. I mean, the gospels even go so far as to refer to followers specifically as sheep! :laughing:

    Too bad the ancient Israelites didn't know what lemmings were. That would have been even better.
     
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    A child is more honest than adults like you.

    The Bible reveals the truth that is why you are afraid of the Bible because you are afraid of the truth, a child is more mature and honest than adults like you children sees God better. It is either be a good sheep or a wild wolf that hides in the bush to prey on defenseless creatures, I prefer to be the sheep.

    They don't have to, they have God.
     
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    You know I used to be Christian, right? I wanted that silly book to be true. I really did.

    But it just didn't last. I couldn't lie to myself forever. I would have had to purposely remain uninformed, clueless, surrounded by other faith heads, maybe gone to hide myself from the world at some monastery or Amish farm. You have to live under a rock these days to remain clueless as to what Christianity truly is.
     
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    Everything that is true are lies for you because you have an inverted thought and that is why I am here.

    Jesus the prophecise Messiah, the Son of God, Peter the rock of the Catholic church that is the lineage.

    They are individuals and the Saints have set a true example.

    Because I refuse to agree with your anti Christ extreme position, I am setting a very good example to all Catholics to stand up for Jesus Christ just liek how God stanc up for us, let us not forget.

    That is why we fight the JUST WARS.

    Mother Theresa is a loyal and good servant of Jesus Christ I can only hope that I can be like her and all the other saints.

    That is why the truth is being reveal and that is why we have anti Christ that are anti Truth.

    Typical demonic stradegy two talks, claiming to defend Jesus with the right hand while the left hand is slapping Jesus around.

    It is not a claim it is a testament and upholding Jesus Christ name and defending God just like Gabriel defended Heaven from Satan we do the same here on earth.

    That is why tyrants will always shut down truth.

    Yes, I witness God, I believe "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe".

    True that is why you better make the right choice.
     
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    In short, you get off on defending something stupid because it makes you feel special.
     
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    Nope it makes me feel good to successfully humiliate liars.
     
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    :laughing: What colour is the sky in your world? :D
     
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    I would think after 57 pages you kids would have come to a conclusion by now.

    Geesh!!
     
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    Haven't we? I know I have.

    Jesus is as real as God.
     
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    Wow... just look at that declaration of belief. That is fantastic...

    "is" = "be" = "exist"

    Just love it.
     
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    The cloud in my real world is sometimes blue, white and dark.

    How about yours is it red or pink or maybe purple?? please tell us what is the color of the sky in your false world?
     
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    Good, now we are in the same page, Jesus is God.:pray:
     
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    Conclusion? Very easy:

    ... Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Essence of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Essence of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood by God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

    http://youtu.be/DJz8b95Rw8o
     
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    inverted thought?

    I hate liars. Look at what they have done to you.
    jesus didnt have a lineage as the prophecy claims. Read Matt 1.

    What does it say?

    and your post show the example of antichrist/liar

    Your conscious will catch up!

    i dont slap on jesus, just people like YOU!

    no such thing as an angel named gabby, gabriel

    nor is there a satan

    and i live in heaven

    I hate lies, and your posts keep putting the up

    truth wins

    you can rant, all you like

    You will lose


    unless nature is that god you are witnessing, or you are representing what could have never saw (witness)

    how is lying to yourself being blessed?
     
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    psychotic
     
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    "neurotic" not psychotic - maybe even a kind of relief response because of the confused and confusing "wordwar endless" in the english speaking world.

    http://youtu.be/UCmUhYSr-e4
     
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    Looks like this thread has run its course.

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