Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by james M, Jun 6, 2018.
He said eg we had a duty to love thy neighbor as thyself!
if true why did you fail to tell us on what it depends??? Funny that you forgot? Maybe the Girl Scouts started the idea that all men are created equal??
what exclusion? America was founded as 13 religious colonies based totally on behavior that was directed by God!
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"
The irony of illiteracy aside, you seemed to indicate that Christians invented fair trade, commerce and, which you did say, capitalism. Did I misread you? What do you think took place before the Spanish raped South America in the name of Christ? Why did you dodge the question about Christians supporting usury? Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian? Honest, loving your neighbors and walking in the path of Christ?
Which version of the Bible says that's a "duty"? Mine says it's a commandment. Do you abide by that commandment? Do you love your fellow people as yourself or do you parse those words?
1) What aboutism. I wasn't asking about the ****ing Democrats, I was asking about Republicans. Are you dodging?
2) Yes, it is. Perhaps you should read a book of history about "money lenders". Are you parsing the meaning? At what percentage does money lending become usury in your opinion? Are you trying to say a person can be a Christian if they only charge 5% interest, but they're a Jew if they charge 6%?
Do you understand? Obviously not, so let me help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury
Originally, usury meant interest of any kind. A loan may be considered usurious because of excessive or abusive interest rates or other factors. Historically, in some Christian societies, and in many Islamic societies even today, charging any interest at all would be considered usury.
Someone who practices usury can be called a usurer, but a more common term in contemporary English is loan shark.
The term may be used in a moral sense—condemning, taking advantage of others' misfortunes—or in a legal sense where interest rates may be regulated by law. Historically, some cultures (e.g., Christianity in much of Medieval Europe, and Islam in many parts of the world today) have regarded charging any interest for loans as sinful.
Did Jesus exist? Is the bible an accurate record of his words and actions? Before you can judge him politically you have to answer those two questions.
Yes. Unlikely. Sure, parts are accurate, but his words were filtered through the decades before the Gospels were written.
?? if you know what you were trying to say why not tell us?
absolutely nothing to dodge obviously. In Middle Ages Christianity was against usury. Today neither Democrats nor Republicans nor Christians are. Do you understand??
Roman rule was characterised to a great degree by pragmatism, and one of the hallmarks of this pragmatism was a veneration of that which was ancient or established. Hence the status of Judaism as a religio licitas ('approved religion'), though it should be noted that this was a term coined by the Christian writer Tertullian and did not have any basis in Roman law.
Judaism was already an old religion by the time of the Empire and therefore afforded respect, whereas Christianity was seen as a new and proselytising cult, a zealous sect of Judaism, and it was therefore perhaps not afforded the same level of tolerance.
The 10 Commandments go back to the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Hammurabi Code.
Most gladiators were slaves or volunteers.. They were the rock stars of their day.
in a free society it is never usurious since you are free not to accept that price for money or price for any other good or service, and go to the lower priced competition.
don't recall saying anything about that subject or about anything remotely related to that subject! Do you understand this now?
I'll pay you $10,000 if I disagreed? Bet?
any idea why subject you are on and why you are on it??
any idea what subject you are on and why you're on it?
one has a duty to obey commandments, commandments give rise to a duty to obey them. Thus, duties are commandments and commandments are duties. Do you understand now? It could say the 10 Commandments or the 10 Duties.
people traded 50,000 years before Christ. What Christianity did was try to shape commerce or regulate it so that it was consistent with Christian principles one of the most important of which was usury ie getting over on someone in business. Make sense?
about 1 million years of history. And??????????
?? don't recall dodging any question. If I did why not cut the BS and simply paste the question. Make sense?
Wow. Thank you for the multiple replies and subdividing my post into several responses. You have a very interesting personality. Your hyperbole is unusual.
Thanks for confirming that Christians didn't invent free trade.
Don't worry about it. I'm actually writing to others, not you.
translation: as typical liberal anti christian I lost that debate and its time to bow out
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