Was Jesus the First Republican?

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  1. james M

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    less than kindergartenish at best since conservatism is intelligent moral and pragmatic.
     
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    Some of it is, but not all of it. I find some conservative principles common sense, and others stupid. On this issue they are stupid. Disconnected from reality. Their values become their reality, but it is not our reality.
     
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    of course if stupid why are you so afraid to present best example??
     
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    Didn't know you were a Republican but if you are and support its action then you have had a hand in killing innocents. And there is no greater profanation that what you people have done and continue to do.

    All this proves Jesus was NOT a Republican. Thanks for making my point.


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    Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17 et seq
     
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    But conservatives endorse invasion of foreign lands and stealing resources.
     
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    If you consider the Book of Acts to be out of context with respect to describing the behavior of early Christians what is in context? I get that you may be offended that Acts 4:32 describes a pre Carl Marx implementation of Communism, but it is what it is.

    How is "[N]o one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had" different than "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs."
     
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    Wrong as pointed out in Acts 4:43 as quoted above. The word "Context" by definition describes setting/circumstances -- which for early Christians the setting/circumstances was property was shared. Now if you have some actual proof the early Christians embraced the concept of private property present your proof.
     
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    The constant one trick pony use of the word "context" in your postings hardly presents a valid argument to or for anything.
     
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    You claim to be a literary scholar. Did you ever read about the Republican Party and it's founding? It was the GOP that brought about the Emancipation Proclamation while the opposition (Democrat Party) fought to not only preserve but expand slavery. Your liberal friends are calling women who engage in pornography as "honorable profesionals". Jesus told the women caught in the act of adultery "go your way and sin no more". They encourage the killing of millions upon millions of unborn and insist goverment subsidize that practice. Margaret Sangar, the founder of this abortion institution, did it to eliminate inferior races. The Liberals are the sole support of this muderous and genocidal practice. Liberals not only defile the practice of marriage, which Jesus taught was a foreshadow of "Christ and His bride....the Church , they confuse the genders and the basis of family. Liberals encourage homosexuality as an alternative from the "way it was from the beginning" one man and one women. Democrat liberals have been the Genisis of almost every major war wehave engaged. From WWII, Viet Nam and of course our Civil War. Jesus knew and taught that "all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God", but you want to point your bloody finger at one specific Party or ideology while at the same time, trying to impress the idea you are a literary scholar. Ha!
    I would submit there is only one source of purity among men......that is those that profess Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and rely on the Grace He has provided through death on a cross to save us all from the bloody sin for which everyone of us is guilty.
     
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    LOL - a pathetic reply. But remember that Sanger's financiers were ALL Republican. Click on search for my earlier posts about her and Republicans John D Rockefeller, Prescott Bush, and Clarence Gamble. You may also click on search for my posts about the Roe v Wade and Casey decision which legalized abortion - the majority in both cases were Republican. As for homosexuals, don't even get me started regarded the pathetic example of your fellow Republicans who are Log Cabinites. In fact your party is so full of them that they called themselves Tea B-g---s until they learned that their own chosen name revealed their true character.

    Before you go on and embarrass yourself further, consider Jesus and his teachings about Pharisees.
     
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    Couldn't grasp my last point , could you literary scholar?
     
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    I have. I used one example. Their thinking in regards to social safety nets and a Commons other than war mongering. Their thinking on the poor and social safety nets is because they are disconnected from reality on both of these things. Their values, their ideals, do not jive with reality, and only create problems and human suffering when they are allowed to implement them.

    When there is a disconnect from reality, you can never wisely and intelligently address that reality. Not that the dems were connected to it either with their war on poverty that was designed to break apart the black family, creating the social problems you see today with the poor in our cities.
     
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    thats your best and its utterly absurd!!!. Conservatives are for a safety net while liberals are for a crippling intergenerationl hip hop welfare programs.
     
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    and don't forget the first Republican Party was founded by Jefferson and Madison in 1793 to stand for limited govt that they feared, even at that time, was growing too centralized and too powerful.
     
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    I am surprised by your words. The few conservatives in the GOP is who Ike was referring to when he said they were basically wrong when it came to wanting to end SS. He despised their attitudes in regards to SS. A moderate republican, and moderates have been purged from the GOP over the years. So, it has been well known by all except yourself perhaps that conservatives despise big gov't and a part of what the despise are the huge burocracies that administer the social safety nets, including SS.

    So they are either lying about getting rid of big gov't or they are lying about believing in SS and safety nets for the poor and aged. Logically they cannot hold both views, because the views are not coherent with one another.
     
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    "thou shalt not steal or covet thy neighbors goods" this assumes private property!! Do you understand?
     
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    yes conservative Republicans since Jefferson and Madison founded the Party in 1793 have been for very limited government.
     
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    basic Christian principles would render them in support of a safety net and opposed to crippling inter-generational hip hop welfare programs, although they would probably prefer to see safety net programs administered and funded on the state level. Do you understand now?
     
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    BS of course, a couple working at $10/hr for 60 hours a week makes $60,000, Really rocks your world -right?
     
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    well, to hell with Nazi ideology, but not Conservative Republican ideology of our founders which created greatest country in human history by far. Do you understand?
     
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    I understand that the Jews law and 10 commandments recognized private property. Apparently you do not understand that Acts 4:32 indicates that the early Christians practiced communal ownership of property. To quote from Wikipedia The first church in Jerusalem shared all their money and possessions (Acts of the Apostles 2 and 4)

     
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    Yes, I agree the min wage should be at least 10 bucks an hour, for I made 1.65 in 1968, the min wage, and if you adjusted that up for just inflation it would be higher than 10 bucks an hour.

    A couple making 8 bucks an hour, which is common here where I live, are not middle class. But they make enough so as not to qualify for welfare. There are more couples with this kinda of income than you might think. I am surrounded by them.

    In the early 60s my mom did not work, didn't have to, and what my dad earned as a blue collar worker, a welder, would have been 80 grand today. Hard to find those blue collar jobs today that pay 80 grand a year for a blue collar skill.
     
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    Republican ideology? The republican ideology today has hollowed out our manufacturing base, and sent money to china so she could rise and challenge us at some point for world power. That ideology? Do you understand?

    So if both parents work at walmart, or McDs, because that is the only job that will hire them, they earn living wages? Not here in Ms. Cheapest rent here is 900 bucks a month. To live, rent should be 1/4 of your income, and no more. Just basic living expenses are high today when compared to the income. Out of line.
     
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    As Washington said....government is only a neccesary evil.
     

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