Was Jesus the First Republican?

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    ??? never used fundamentalist???/
     
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    Ok, so the bible says to not give people who refuse to work. That alone isn't capitalism.
     
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    You didn't address my main point. Again, false dilemma.
     
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    being loved or made important by God and being asked to create your individual relationship with God as an individual means you have liberty. Ask a man who is free to be in love with a women if he feels liberty to enjoy the feeling. Love for God totally creates you and frees you from being a part of a collective that is enslaved to a Roman liberal emperor tyrant. NOw do you grasp it?
     
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    I don't know about Jesus, but the early Christians seem to be more like Communists or hippies living in a commune (ref. Acts 4:32) than Republicans.
     
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    bible has 1000's of economic stories it assumes private property and free exchange just like our Constitution.
     
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    What happens if you choose not to make that relationship? Oh, right, eternal torture? And the bible is very clear that we must choose to obey our dictators.
     
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    out of context nonsense!!
     
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    Private property that the bible tells us to give away to the poor. It was describing the society of the time not what should happen.
     
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    any idea what your point is??
     
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    OMG more out of context total nonsense!!!
     
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    What happens if you choose not to make that relationship? Oh, right, eternal torture? And the bible is very clear that we must choose to obey our dictators.
     
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    Matthew 19:21
    Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
     
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    more out of context nonsense!! Do you understand????
     
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    You might have an intelectual understanding of some things in the Bible but your heart is far from the truth or you wouldn't accuse me of killing others and exterminating races. You may be a scholar in your own mind though....what, you have a piece of paper that tells you so? I am unimpressed. Naughty words is a little different than blaspheming the name of the Creator of all things.
     
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    Your emotions are making you just a mite incoherent. I have never said who I wanted to provide funds for the Commons, but since you asked, it would be a morally driven person, and it makes no difference which party they come from.

    The welfare system in the Commons is in bad need of reform, for it has never been intelligently run, far from it in fact. Now, any reasonable and responsible american would want to see less people needing welfare in order to survive, as few as possible. But we in fact no longer have an economy, an economic model that would minimize poverty by providing living wage jobs to the poor. We once did have that kind of economy. I saw the poor, first the white and then later on the black folks, rise from poverty into the lower middle class almost overnight. The ladder up? Factory work.

    So unless our economy has living wage jobs for the poor, and we simply do not have them with the loss of industry, deindustrialization, you are gonna have huge welfare spending. Unless you want to starve those americans to death. That is the actual choice in reality. Which escapes you apparently. ha ha
     
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    That a civilized society provides safety nets as a part of the Commons is what intelligence does. It is that simple. Nothing else helps to alleviate hunger and poverty as optimally as this. This is what pragmatism does, driven by intelligence, with no eye on ideology.
     
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    It is generally located within common sense, that knows no ideological belief. It is what intelligence uses to move forward, to solve a problem, when ideologies are too busy fighting one another, like two bald men fighting over a comb.
     
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    Jesus said to lead by example. Did you see him running a business?
     
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    totally out of context liberal nonsense
     
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    go it so we want a govt with no ideology!! Makes good sense to me!!
     
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    I know the context. A man of means came to JC and asked what he must do in order to be saved. The man then told JC of his good deeds. And this is what JC replied to. To go and sell his riches and give to the poor and follow Him. Perhaps JC knew this man was greatly attached to his riches? And he placed the value of worldly possessions over all things? And in order to really follow christ one cannot be attached to worldly things?

    Are you attached to worldly things? I can kinda get that feeling from the manner in which you post and what you post about.
     
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    safety net you bounce off of. Liberals provide a house that cripples generations of Americans.
     
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    We should want a gov't that is very intelligent, moral and pragmatic. To hell with ideology as a guide to action. It limits you and it may not be at all pragmatic nor have any common sense involved.
     
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    Christianity assumed private property "Thou shalt not steal or covet private property" A liberal lacks the ability to understand context
     

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