"we are not closing our country” if the United States is hit by a second wave of infections.

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How many can die, before we reclose due to virus?

  1. 150000

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  2. 200000

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  3. 500000

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  4. 1000000

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  5. There is no amount that would justify reclosing

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  1. david gullikson

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    The CLOSURE was the only thing you can do, when the authorities dont give a **** about human life. The CLOSURE was ONLY meant to stop major catastrophy. Trump is a **** up. Trump has CAUSED many families to grieve. He has CAUSED great human suffering. Personally, I wish the cost to human life would be paid by the stupid **** that created the problem.

    The good news for right wingers is, part of test test test, contaact trace, quarantine, should include isolating the country for a period. But it wouldnt have been long, had it been part of the whole kit of logical response to pandemic.
     
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    Well, you see, Trump gave us NO CHOICE, but to create a crisis, to fight a crisis. TRUMP is a **** up.

    I hope we pursue him till the grave. He needs to pay for all he has caused.
     
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    Yes we know you hate Trump and every problem under the sun is his fault. Got it.:)
     
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    Just like President Wilson with the Spanish Flu, right?
     
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    How many dead and addicted from an unneeded shut down economy are OK? This isn't a health vs. the economy question, it's a health vs. health one.
     
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    Lay that on the doorstep of the **** for brains, that chose that for us.
     
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    We were not nearly as sophisticated as now.
     
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    Trump has had very little to do with lots of things, but this is his fault almost entirely. He and his people are responsible, and they should own it since he never will.
     
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    All hatred aside, you are incorrect. Trump left it up to the state governors. It is they you need to pursue to their graves. Some states didn't shut down anything.
     
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    What exactly is Trumps fault?
     
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    China?
     
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    It's how our system of Federalism works, not that the LW cares about the Constitution.
     
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    Trump did NOT leave it all up to the states. He piecemealed it, ORDERING masks, and ventiilators built. He is ORDERING a vaccine, without proper safeguards. He chooses what he wants to do, and sluffs off all the rest. He is a complete buffoon.
     
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    He did so at the request of the governors.

    A vaccine is positive thing. The sooner the better. If you disagree you can simply not get vaccinated. Pretty siimple. Do you go through life seeing everything as negative?
     
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    So, the governors BEGGED him for tests. He would not budge. Right wing dogma had to be followed, no matter how many dead and dying.
     
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    Not true. Not even slightly true.
     
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    Not the subject. The subject was Trump can get involved, if it pleases his highness..
     
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    Rural-state governors tell Trump they need tests and medical supplies, too
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rural-...ump-they-need-tests-and-medical-supplies-too/

    Trump Suggests Governors are Requesting More Tests Just to Make Him Look Bad — Everything is About TRUMP
    https://www.politicalflare.com/2020...-make-him-look-bad-everything-is-about-trump/

    AP FACT CHECK: Trump falsely blames governors for coronavirus test
    TRUMP, on governors urging wider availability of virus tests: “They don’t want to use all of the capacity that we’ve created. We have tremendous capacity. …They know that. The governors know that. The Democrat governors know that; they’re the ones that are complaining.” — news briefing Saturday.
    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/19/fact-check-trump-covid-coronavirus-test/

    Governors plead with Trump for more coronavirus supplies, testing
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...h-trump-for-more-coronavirus-supplies-testing



    Arent you embarassed?

     
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    I suppose he can. You hate him for possibilities? Wouldn't it be better to hate him for what does rather for what you wish he does?
     
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    If you trying to inform me that Trump is self centered you can save your time. I already know that.
     
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    I can hate him for being incompetent, and having that get folks killed, and not giving a **** about it.
     
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    OK. Hopefully you will get past that one day.
     
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    I hope so too, but the odds of getting the virus are good, and dying from it are GREAT.
     
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    It is a somewhat ambiguous question.
    We have to clarify the definition of exactly what it means to "die from the virus", because right now there are many deaths that show some connection to the virus, but we are not truly sure if it was the virus that actually killed them, or exactly how much the virus may have contributed to their deaths.
     
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    The choice to limit testing to ridiculous categories, which let the disease run rampant. Choosing NOT to purchase tests. The choice NOT to contact trace. The choice not to quarantine. The choice to make the Chinese travel ban window dressing.
     

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