"we are not closing our country” if the United States is hit by a second wave of infections.

Smokescreen. The folks DEAD, would not be, had they NOT contracted the covid 19. And so, the only issue is right wingers trying to make the stats look good enough to reelect the dictator.

 

And how do you prove that?

Testing positive for the coronavirus, having respiratory issues, and then dying is a very low bar. You can test positive for coronavirus and not have Covid-19.
You could be an elderly person and have Covid-19, and that may not be the primary cause of your death.

 

Dying of the EXACT symptoms of covid 19?

Doctors are miles more competent than our dictator, they know their job. But Trump had to make them the enemy, like anyone else that calls the dictator naked.

 

It often can't be exactly proved that respiratory distress was the actual cause of death in these elderly people.

The ones most vulnerable are the ones who were close to death anyway.

This group dies from all sorts of fairly normal things like influenza.

I think you would have to look carefully at the statistics, and compare any change. But that's not really how they are calculating these deaths.

 

Yes, and if they died due to getting the flu, that is the cause. This is not rocket science. And there are many more symptoms than respiratory distress.

 

We must continue the upscaling of testing.

 

The testing is not really very accurate.

 

You might think so, but that is not the case.

Someone could be dying over a period of months or weeks, and when they get something like the flu, that could be enough to finally push them over the edge.
That does not mean the flu was the primary cause of death.

 

Yes, kazenatsu, that is the case.

 

Obviously I can’t respond adequately to a Gish gallop post which is the objective of that tactic so let’s take your allegations one by one.
“The choice to limit testing to ridiculous categories”

Care to elaborate ?

 

Trump TURNED down purchasing tests from WHO.
Trump made testing ONLY available to those that could PROVE they were in Wuhan. Later China.
Trump spurned contact tracing.
Trump spurned quarantining.
Trump said he made a China travel ban, when in actuality, there were 400000 visitors from China in that period.
Trump said the doctors and nurses all lie, steal the PPE, and lie about needing supplies, so he didnt need to help.
Trump ignored governors, by saying that they were all in a conspiracy to ruin him.

 

So you respond to my post requesting to take one allegation at a time with another Gish gallop post? lol

 

Amazing how that turned out, huh?

You never would've thought it was going to be the Trump haters that busted the lockdowns wide open, right?

 

And the answer is 1.

It took the death of one man, and the left stopped caring about the lockdowns completely.

 

We need to increase testing.

 

The only problem there is a shortage of people showing up for testing.



But, since it can't be blamed on Trump, you won't hear too much about it.

And now that the left has decided that rioting is more important than coronavirus lockdowns, everybody is just going to ignore what little COVID scaremongering remains, and go back to business as usual.

Short of a massive spike is COVID deaths(the leftist rioters will be to blame)to bring attention back to the pandemic, the whole COVID episode is basically over. Yesterday's news.

 

Actually, it does.

 

It does, and it doesn't.

It's not just a matter of what caused the death, it's also a matter of how much life was taken away.

COVID kills people, but it doesn't take all that much life away from them. It kinda just nudges the people who were in death's waiting room into the light a little quicker.

The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed children and healthy people in the prime of life, so it took away a whole lotta life. In just one year, it dropped the life expectancy of an American by over a decade. How horrific is that? A disease so deadly, it chopped over 10 years of life off the entire population.

COVID isn't even going to shave 10 days of the life expectancy clock given the way it just sorta nudges life away, rather than chops it of.

 

There is good news for some, if a second or third wave comes crashing down on humanity, many will still be hunkered down and will never know the first wave has left the building.

 

NOT TRUE. ANYONE, who reacts to the covid, by inflammation of the lungs, likely dies.

You are simply perpetuating the claim that they are all on their last legs, so they shouldnt even be counted. Their deaths are not important, and we should not even offer them healthcare, just hospice their old asses.

 

Nah, it's actually all too true. Statistically speaking, kids are basically immune to COVID.

COVID death cases have a huge association with comorbidity. The vast majority of COVID deaths are connected to "underlying causes", and specifically the sorts of underlying causes that are associated with drastically-reduced lifespans.

COVID is the lion picking off the sick and injured gazelles at the watering hole. Or, in COVID's case, the lion stalking the halls of the nursing homes.

 

david gullikson is right.

We have been identifying those who pooh pooh the virus or try to use morbidity analysis to excuse their terrible morality.

And we have been cutting them from our business, religious, and social circles.

 

That's because you both operate on pure emotion and drama, and you can't face the plain facts.

 

So you'd basically cut everyone out in the streets protesting right now out of your business, religious, and social circle?

Because how is breaking isolation to attend mass, tight-packed gatherings not pooh poohing the virus?

A few weeks ago, you were screaming at people who did that, and shaking your shame shame finger at them in full Karen mode.

 

We don't know what the odds are because we don't know how many have been infected in the US. We only know the confirmed cases but the majority of those result from testing symptomatic people. Deaths represent about 3 ten thousandths of 1 percent of the US population at the moment. Unless you live in the northeast US I would say the odds of infection are poor. We don't know the odds of death for those infected because we don't know how many have been infected. Covid is certainly worse than all but a couple of the flu viruses but isn't as serious as the media chooses to make it. I recommend you not worry about it. Do what you think will prevent infection and go on with life.