We need to find a way to save rape babies.

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And that results in a viable “baby”? If we are talking a D&E here, well it is not like a jigsaw you can put back together
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, isn't great that rape victims can CHOOSE !!!!!

    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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    Yup, you always FORGET or minimize what a rape victim went through like it was nothing...

    WHY TF should a rape victim HAVE to give birth to her rapist's baby ?
    To PUNISH her for being raped ?????
     
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    Hey Fox

    Don’t you like the way that they do not seem to understand the role of the placenta?
     
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    ...or anything else.....:)
     
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    Is your argument seriously that if rape victims should get to choose abortion, every other woman should too?

    I think you've just confirmed pro-lifers' hypothesis about the slippery slope.
     
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    Here's my COMPLETE post :

    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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    What are you trying to say?

    You do realize the placenta does not belong to the woman, don't you?
     
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    Yep! Seem to think that the foetus would look like this

    upload_2022-2-6_13-24-23.jpeg

    When they in reality look like this

    upload_2022-2-6_13-26-0.gif
     
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    YES ALL woman have rights not just raped women....


    Here's my COMPLETE post :

    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems like you're simultaneously trying to have your cake and eat it too.

    You're being ridiculous here, trying to argue from two different sides of the issue, when you can't try to claim both at the same time. Are you saying it's like the same thing, or aren't you?
     
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    Why are you talking to yourself?
     
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    Why can't you answer the questions :) :)

    FoxHastings said:
    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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    upload_2022-2-6_13-26-58.jpeg

    oh! Dear!

    upload_2022-2-6_13-28-28.jpeg

    Good luck removing something that is as intertwined as the above without causing irreparable date to the surface. We cannot “just stick it back on” it interweaves with the lining of the uterus
     
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    That is why advancements in technology are needed.

    In my opinion, what you are describing is kind of irrelevant. Even if they surgically removed the section of the woman's uterus that was attached to the placenta, the problem would still be the same.

    Maybe they could just tap into the main arteries in the placenta.
     
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    I have an alternative idea. Free uterus transplants into transgender women if they are willing to host an orphan un-fully-developed baby in there.
     
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    Look at the picture I posted and BTW I am getting very very tired of the selective quoting, the chorionic villi penetrate into the uterine wall. When birth starts the uterus clamps down to help expel the placenta but this disrupts those villi. You would have to figure out a way of removing something that is interwoven on a microcirculation level WITHOUT disrupting the oxygenation to the foetus and of course without killing the mother. See the reason why the uterus clamps down hard during childbirth is to restrict the blood supply to that area because if that does not happen the woma willl lose 700 mL per Minute! It is called “hosing” and the stream of blood will reach to her knees
     
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    And the effects of immunosuppression on the developing foetus?
    Mind you - why don’t you put your hand up to “host” a baby that way?
     
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    :) The OP's ideas are irrelevant...
     
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    A poster needs "selective quoting" when he can't answer those awkward pertinent questions....:)
     
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    I have a better idea....free uterus transplants into men who don't think women have a right to their own bodies and want to save all the "babies" LOLOLOL
     
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    Years ago I read a report on research they were doing to determine how much “female hormones” were produced by the placenta and they were implanting fertilised eggs into male mice. The bit that rings in my memory was that they found the most successful site was if the conceptus was implanted into the scrotum.
     
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    Claim "both " WHAT at the same time?

    I am not arguing from both sides of the issue and, OF COURSE, you can't show where you think I am doing so.


    Maybe you wouldn't be so confused if you answered the questions....you do seem very lost and /or pretend to have no idea what I'm talking about when I ask:


    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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    WHAT! LOLOLOLOLOOL
     
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    So WHY can't a woman who had consensual sex choose,too?

    Is it to punish her for having consensual sex?

    Looks like it since an abortion due to rape is exactly the same procedure and outcome as abortion due to consensual sex...
     
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