Went to Confession...

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  1. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    I think thats interpretation.

    the apostles were annointed, and the term apostle implies thatthey were especially chosen.

    in catholicism, and in other eastern churches, there is a long training period before ordination (its about seven years I think). not all of that training is religious, a lot of it involves learning skills and being involved in community roles to ensure that priests are well prepared to take an important role in the community.

    I think the anglican church also has a long period of training.
     
  2. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Absolutely.
    I just have no condemnation of someone that finds peace through the practice.
    God works in His own ways, not the ways we wish Him to.
     
  3. BFSmith@764

    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Well, there is a big difference between a person that is spiritually more mature that does not need to go to a man to have his or her sins forgiven by God, and one that believes it is not enough that God forgives ones sins when we ask Him. It’s the same big of a difference between those whom in Jesus’ day believed that one must go to the temple in Jerusalem to get to worship God, and those whom Jesus called the true worshipers whom does not need to go to Jerusalem or be in a temple to speak to God.

    God, through Jesus has torn down the veil that had separated the people that in the Old Testament times needed a priest to speak to God on their behalf. All God's people now have direct access to Him. God is my Father, so therefore I am not simply a servant, so I can go to Him boldly, and know that He hears me and He has my best interest at heart without me speaking to a minister about what I would want of God, my Father.
     
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    And the end result is the same.
    You both experience a cleansing, an unburdening through your confession.
    You perceive yourself as better, more mature, and proudly proclaim it. That is part of your reward.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Only in Protestant either/or think does going to a priest categorically exclude going to God. You can confess your sins privately to God, but a person going to a priest is also confessing his sins to God. The difference is in the effect. Confessing to a priest establishes human accountability, an acknowledgement that our sin does not only offend God, but the Church as well, and defiles the body of Christ. The pronouncement of forgiveness restores both relationships at once. The assignment of pennance sets our feet back on the path of righteousness so that we don't continually fall back into the same rut of sin. Zacchaeus gave half his goods to the poor and made reparations to those he wrongfully defrauded. Forgiveness without pennance is valid, but does not have the power to change the course of one's life. Acts of pennance demonstrate true sorrow and a commitment to change. Doing so in obedience to the priest is submission to Christ's Church and through the Church, Christ himself.
     
  6. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For anyone not believing in the power of the Sacrament of Confession--I suggest they try it. Go into the confessional with the intent to say out loud all your sins--if you're not Catholic, make sure that you tell the priest that. See where it takes you--rather, where God takes you. You ordinarily won't be able to receive absolution, but...I think it's worth the effort, and maybe you will discover something important about your relationship with God.
     
  7. Someone

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    There's nothing sacred or mystical about relief when you tell other people about your problems. That's true regardless of whether the listener is a priest or a psychiatrist.
     
  8. robini123

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    I think a confession should be given to those whom we have harmed. It just seems self serving to confess our transgressions to the clergy whilst ducking our responsibility to right our wrongs in the eyes of those we have harmed.

    Oh well... so long as God forgives... that is all that matters...
     
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    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never been to confession, eh?

    You don't go there to tell your problems; you go to tell your SINS.
     
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    I'm not a catholic, and never will be. The pedophilia thing is a real turn-off.
     
  11. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...bet you don't go to school for the same reason...or see doctors....or participate in sports...or go grocery shopping....or participate in politics...or go to any other church for that matter... :rolls

    :bored:
     
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    Permanent ignore. There are some people who are not worth the time.
     
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    Seconded and repeated.
     
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    The bottom-line is the one that does not need a fallible man to get to God has a personal relationship with God, while the one that believes that he does need a fallible man does not. The latter needs to believe God and step up to grab a hold of what God has done. A slave or a servant can be forgiven by his master but the slave does not have a father and son relationship with his master because he is a slave and the one he serves is his master. A son of the master has a personal relationship with the master, because the master is his father. But I don't have burdens.....because God has freed me from them and I am not going to go back and pick it up. I’m free.
     
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    I take offense to this statement. I do not need anyone telling me whether or not I have a personal relationship with God. As a Catholic, I go to confession regularly, but this does not mean I don't pray to God on my own time. Catholics are only obligated to confess mortal (serious) sins to the Priest, and are only required to do so once a year. Venial sins (not so serious) can be confessed in the confessional or not.
     
  16. jedimiller

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    Like someone said, once you are educated and mature in your studies of the bible...you will no longer need a "Middle Man". I no longer need a priest or a pastor to read scripture to me in public. I can privately read the bible on my own time..I'm not a baby anymore. People who need the bible read to them or others to forgive them need to mature and move on. Grow up spiritually.

    Once you reach the ultimate path and the holy spirit speaks to you directly...you no longer need a church to tell you what to do or say.
     
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    By the way: How do you call this what you are thinking what your own private anticatholic religion for everyone is?

    http://youtu.be/Hnk04X6ZR1w
     
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    What religion are you reffering too? I'm a private Christian. I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Do not attend or pay a church or have anyone else read me the book. I'm a private Christian. No religious affiliation.
     
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    You sing pretty good. Still, get out of church more and see the real world.
     
  21. Anobsitar

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    I'm asking myselve only how you could be able to take yourselve serios. But okay - it's your life not my life. If you remember: Never a catholic did you something bad in your whole life, isn't it? Sure this can be a reason to hate all catholics in the name of Jesus Christ because anticatholicism is not a religion. Whatever: Merry Christmas.

    http://youtu.be/h6eeuACeO6s
     
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    If Jesus is supposed to be God then why did God have to be baptised?

    Baptism-Confession-Saints-wine that is blood-bread that is flesh

    it's all nonsense!
     
  23. Anobsitar

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    I would call the lack of your education nonsense. If you don't know what you are speaking about - why do you do so?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2AfqVNs_50"]Arabic Christmas Carol (higher resolution) - YouTube[/ame]
     
  24. jedimiller

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    I take the teachings of Jesus Christ seriously. I don't take religious groups who sing and charge you money to join their church seriously. I grew up catholic and seen the evils of the church. I became a christian when I was about 26, got baptized with my ex-wife in a pool by a pastor. After I've learned all I needed to know about Jesus and the bible I moved on. Like a personal spiritual graduation. I didn't want to be a slave to religion. I am free now and I communicate directly with God. Merry Christmas to you.
     
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    That's impossible because someone who grew up as a catholic would not even start to think about to start to attack members of foreign religions on Christmas (or their important days). With other words: You do not have only a light idea about catholics. You are for sure not a convertit of the catholic religion into the nowhere of your own thoughts. Why do you have not only a little respect of the christian religion?

    http://youtu.be/nKM34uKHUDc
     

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