What is an uninformed statement ? and why is it uninformed .. Cat calling from the peanut gallery is not support for claim here in the adult room. Uninformed you say - it turns out that it is your statement "read a book on embryology" that is uniformed - as Embryology is not a subject matter domain - did you not know this ? and are you not embarassed for not knowing this after years of debating the topic. You don't even bother to state what you think is uninformed so hopelessly lost is your position. Then after engaging in Ad hom you try to project your failings onto me .. .. do you know what Ad Hom fallacy is mate ? Asking you to support your claim .. is not Ad Hom fallacy. You said life begins at "creation" life has been created at the sperm stage .. did you have any support for your claim that a sperm is a human. ?
The statement I quote what did you think I was talking about. It is totally uninformed that you would ask such questions. And yes I did point out try again Go learn the difference between diploid and haploid cells, Jr. High School Biology, and read a book on embryology several of which I have cited to you over and over. And then this zinger A human life is a HUMAN.
I know the difference .. why you are repeating this over and over .. I do not know .. I am the teacher in this room mate .. you being the student .. so lets get that pretence .. and your pretending out of the way .. since you desperately want a pud measuring contest .. Appeal to Authority being one of your favorite fallacies. but since you asked ... Your "Biological" creds are ? .. anything other than Jr. HS Biology . not as far as I can tell ..throughout numerous interactions .. not much adademic seems be going on .. at all to be honest ...unable to understand what an argument is ... in the context of Appeal to Authority fallacy you so often engage. "A human life is a HUMAN" .. you say is your Zinger .. did you have some point attached .. and what does any of this have to do with your claim that at creation a human life exists ? gonna be funny you explaining your "Zinger" don't forget now .. and tell us what your Bio-Creds are mate .. desperate for the measurment you are .. so you will have it. ..
Biology was my major through my sophomore year in college as I have told you before so don't get your ego so up you think you can play teacher when I have already called your posted for their statements. I told you the point the human being is a human being from conception it is never something else.
So, parenthood is a punishment? What if she did actually use all the contraceptives, but they failed? Why does that even matter? It is her life, is it not? Why do so many anti-abortionists also want to make it nearly impossible to get birth control? i say that even if we imagine the most ridiculous, anti-abortion sci-fi type of irresponsible woman who has lots and lots of sex with many men without ever using any pills or rubbers despite being 110% sure she does not want to be pregnant who then ends up pregnant and just sists around posting Tik Toks knowing she does not want.a child and then in the 8 month, she goes to the mall to have her nails done and a caramel latte before heading to the clinic, she has the right to that abortion. You can and maybe even should question her moral judgement, but her immorality does not change her legal status as a person with rights. Oh no, not orgasms! Hey, what if she did not orgasm? There is no such conflict that you are presenting. The right to life comes first and that implies the right to pursue orgasms, heterosexual or gay or even alone. The fetus has no right to life.
You may be good at biology, but your understanding of rights is poor. The disagreement here is not over biology anyways, it is over rights.
Thats hilarious .. didn't learn much then - so you saying you have a degree in Biology or not ? - never mind - anyone with any kind of expertice in science in general at a college level .. should know things that you don't .. never mind in Biology. Like for example ... that in terms of "The Science" "Embryology" is not the subject matter domain .. Biology is. Like for example ... that crying out "its in a textbook" is proof of claim Like for example .. having no idea what proof of claim is .. from a Philosophical-Scientific Perspective No idea what an argument is .. despite me schooling you numerous times and we have yet to touch the technical stuff mate.. and won't for some time That you don't understand the difference between a noun and descriptive adjective .. despite being schooled numerous times after making the same error over and over .. as you do again above .. not realizing that the word human in "Human life" can be a descriptive adjective.. so no "A human being is not necessarily a human" .. depends on whether you are talking about the compound word "human being" or each separate in a sentence .. .. but we are talking the phrase "human life" a term on which you are clearly out of your depth .. and cant seem to get it .. regardless of how much schooling you get. Then after wallowing around in gibberish .. not citing the one source you asked for to support your claim -- knowing that you will be crushed if you do .. as I have been through all your sources .. the fact that you think that such proves your claim .. complete nonsense ... lacking understanding of what proof of claim means in context. So buck up -- cite one source that proves your previously destroyed claim that "Science Says" human life begins at conception. Make sure the citation contains "ding ding ding" an "Argument" Degree's in Chemistry - minor microbiology .. and microbiology is what I do for a living .. which of course contains some chemistry .. the two work together .. but .. way bigger pud than yours mate . What kind of biologist does not know that biology is the domain hard Science for classification of what a human is. Now get Padawan .. show me this "Science" this grand citation from some textbook , journal , it matters not .. so long as the claim is supported .so you won't be once again in repetition of premise fallacyland .. as so often you can be found.
And your rant notwithstanding you still cannot refute the science as taught in our universities and colleges, as I have repeatedly posted, so you have to engage in personal attacks against me. How pitiful. I have provided MULTIPLE textbook examples all of which you simply dismiss without anything upon which to base you dismissal. Why should I post one more. Cite me an embryology textbook that say the human being does not begin at conception. Your silly statements about a human being not being a human just one example. EVERY human life is a human, a human being...........by definition. But here just to make you move on from your baseless claims When Human Life Begins American College of Pediatricians – March 2017 ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins. https://acpeds.org/position-statements/when-human-life-begins
Failed contraception, and claims of it amount to less than 1% of abortions just like rape. Properly used, add in a condom and watch the calendar and and the chance of getting pregnant are infinitesimal and then of course there are tens of thousands of couples desperate to adopt a baby and before you even go there I have two adopted now grow children. Yes this is about the right to an orgasm by heterosexual intercourse. The right to life begins at creation of the life, it is not created by our laws.
First off - Thank you for finally citing something. The problem is .. "Is it Science" .. Second - since when is the "College of Pediatricians" the subject matter domain ... .. not that this means what will come will be nonsense .. but one might expect such from "The College" .. one which is very political .. and who should not be engaging in politics of this kind to begin with.. but let is see what they have to say .. hoping for an "Argument" remember.. and hope you figured out what an argument is .. and have vetted your article as such. So it starts out with an unsupported claim .. "human life begins at conception" Confirmed by most biological research. .. so part one of an argument "The Claim" but no part two yet. Looking for how they came to this conclusion .. .. what in the research led us here. To prove any claim .. you need to define terms .. in this case what is meant by "human life" .. then show how the research showed that that conception is the beginning. And here is where things go off the rail .. no explanation of why ..thus no argument .. and you have failed once again. all we have after this unsupported claim is repetition of premise fallacy. "At fertilization the human being emerges as a whole" -- restating "Its a human at conception" repetition of claim as was the rest of your citation. So I went to the link .. looking for this "Scientific Evidence" .. and thats when things really went bonky.. Are you freaken kidding me .. these guys are biological morons .. not unexpected as stated earlier - and why would we expect any different as they are not trained in this aspect of biology to any great degree Some scientist in 1839 .. realized that a an embryo comes after a single cell.. Vunderbar .. glory be to the heavens.. but this is not an explanation of why human life begins at the zygote stage .. just a statement of scientific fact ... that there is in fact a zygote stage .. and that they recognized this a long long time ago. Nowhere in the article are the basic scientific elements of an argument .. how we prove something true in science. Nowhere in the article does it bring up the 4 other scientific perspectives .. never mind address them .. showing why #5 is correct and the other 4 are not. but wait .. there's more Usless information which doesn't even attempts to explain why the zygote is a human .. although that is what is trying to be conveyed. Just really bad mate .. in no way have they shown that "Science" agrees with their claim .. never mind having proven it. They do bring up an interesting thing later on however “However, what is controversial is whether this genetically unique cell should be considered a human person.” Did you catch it mate ? Did you not feel the ground move under your feet -- your position crumbling ? "human life" - is not necessarily "A human" .. just because one figures that human life exists at conception .. doesn't mean that a human exits at conception .. Ouch. Notice these folks keep referring to the opinion of "Embryologists" .. just like you .. and making the same mistake as you .. although they perhaps have more of an excuse for their not understanding that Embryology is not a subject matter domain. You on the other hand claiming to have done some college biology .. do not have an excuse. They make some attempt at addressing the definitional question .. but its a horrible one - and an exercize in fallacy Great .. so we have proven that a single cell exists - an organism. no explanation of why we should consider this single cell a human on that basis. .. and fails to address the obvious .. "A human is not a single celled organism" "Does not reproduce assexually" and the various other characteristics .. but .. at the end of the day .. they are not trying to prove this .. they are trying to show that something which can be classified as "human" exists .. note the descriptive adjective form of the word human.. not that "A Human" - Noun . exists. So you could have saved both of us alot of trouble by learning the difference between the noun and descriptive adjective form of the word Human. In any case .. a massive fail on way too many counts.
WHY TF should anyone tailor their sex life so restrictively especially if it's only to suit you ???? WHY TF should anyone go through pregnancy to provide someone else with a kid ?????????????? Ya, I believe everything I read on the internet How many pregnancies have you gone through to provide someone else with a kid ? Uh, what? What has that got to do with abortion? Ya, but the law rules and YOU don't , thankfully
So that a child, an unborn baby does not have to be killed. It's not about me my mother didn't kill me. You can believe this. Specious. What does having sexual intercourse have to do with abortion? Really? Thank you for acknowledging the law cannot change the fact that a mew unique human being is created at conception and that a human being is killed in an abortion.
YOU SAID : """Yes this is about the right to an orgasm by heterosexual intercourse. ( POST # 3785 ) NOT "sexual intercourse"....there is a difference !!!! LOLOLLLOLSorry, you didn't know
What proceeds the need for the abortion and why was the person engaged in that activity if not to create a child?
I am sorry for anyone who can't think of a reason to have sex if it isn't to have a child... AND PLease tell me you don't really think intercourse and orgasm are the same thing as you have indicated LOL
I cited the reason why, to have an orgasm through sexual intercourse, does the right to that reason trump the right to life?
What? Sex does not always mean pregnancy so once again this is just about “loose women” being “harlots”. I thought we had moved on past that
The point is, that your joke that the only team which won't win the league title is Tottenham, was a poor one! You're a woman?
No, some women haters are still wandering aimlessly around the 17th century and will never progress past their hate.
FoxHastings said: ↑ I am sorry for anyone who can't think of a reason to have sex if it isn't to have a child... AND PLease tell me you don't really think intercourse and orgasm are the same thing as you have indicated LOL No, who told you it did?
When Conservatives in any political party oppose women's ability to have wide-open, at-will abortions, all they do is provide incredible strength and power to the hyperliberal, America-hating Left! The best thing for anyone on the Right to do at this point is to leave the abortion 'issue' ALONE! Why give your enemy a big stick to hit you with on any election day?! Let these women get knocked-up and have abortions to their heart's content -- and meanwhile, we Conservatives should move on to much more important things that affect the whole nation and every American citizen in it!
