What does MAGA (and Ultra MAGA) mean to you

The Loser merely blew gas about it.

January 21, 2021
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In the end, Trump's policies were mostly rhetoric.

While Trump may have promised an industrial resurgence as he entered office four years ago, he failed to revive American factories. As we swiftly and gratefully close the book on the Trump years, it’s important to understand that his grandiose rhetoric and erratic policies on trade and manufacturing didn’t usher in a new era of prosperity for factory towns. Many are in fact worse off than we he entered office.

There are fewer people working in manufacturing today than when Trump became president in 2017. That’s remarkable because factory jobs generally grew year-over-year from 2010 to 2018. In the last four years of Obama’s presidency alone, 386,000 manufacturing jobs were added...

[https://www.americanmanufacturing.o...-trump-accomplish-for-american-manufacturing/]​

 

It takes tax payer money to build a mostly useless wall.
Congress spends the money.
Walls can be gone over, under, around, and smuggled through. At best it's a very expensive bandaid.
Tell congress to get useful immigration laws.

 

I think the problem with your 5" analogy is that you are comparing something "MAGA" which is subjective to something 5 inches which is a near absolute or objective. American greatness can mean different things to different people. It is like if I asked you what the greatest song or movie is? Your answer is probably greatly different than mine and we do not have to agree in order to have a rational discussion about music or movies.

 

Yes, it's difficult to specifically bond some terms to firm points. Takes a higher level of thinking to do so rationally than a knee-jerk rebuttal that we see so often.
Values are always variables. Even crime, hate, murder, theft- all variables. But if you have trouble associating any of these with being detrimental to a society, you're just not comprehending very well,.

The concept of making America great is an endorsement of broad positive values. Take something critical to everyone... Self-Respect. Variable from total to non-existent, like a glass of water empty or full.
MAGA say fill the glass. Be outstanding people so we combine to be an outstanding nation.

So long as you see this as positive benefits, it makes little difference which things you give the most value to. Great is a broad term- but the message clearly means positive, across the spectrum.
Great food, great compassion, great civility, great generosity, great work ethics, great honesty- it's all about positive values, and that means for the people- because we are, in the aggregate, what the nation is. If I want America to be great, I want it's people to thrive. Why? Because I live alongside them- for the nation to be a great place to live for me, I want those I live with to be happy people too. They are part of the soup, and contribute to or diminish it's quality for everyone else. It's a partnership. It also is individual independence. Society cannot make individuals happy.... although that concept is being promoted by unscrupulous politicians and small-minded people everyday. But society can and should be an environment where you can, if you take the responsibility for yourself- build a good life and be happy.

If this didn't depend on us all, MAGA wouldn't be a directive to us... a challenge to make it so.

By the way, one of the ways you make the soup great is to stop including rotten ingredients in it, and that seems to be part of the democrat recipe. Think on that.

Our nation has far more complainers and criers than builders, problem-solvers and leaders. Most- looking for the easy button and someone to blame for them not being happy... but not stepping up to the plate, and asking "What can I do to help?"

In JFK's inauguration address in 1963, he said: "Ask not what your country can do for you.... Ask what you can do for your country."

There's a lot you can do to help. You can stand up for positive values. Become the example of them. Raise sound children with them. Be an honorable person- and Pay your own way.. Demand those you elect to office live up to the highest standards of honor as well. That's want a great America is built of- and that's not ugly or threatening to anyone whose mind is working properly.

 

". . . mostly useless wall." What does that even mean? Either the wall is useless or it's not. I won't disagree with you that walls can be "gone over, under . . . ." But you know what? The same can apply to your home security (like locked doors). Yet, I bet you still lock your doors at night or whenever you're away from your home.

 

Have it your way then, KKK, actually "Historically" marks the rise of the Democrat party! And now that party marks the rise of fascism in the U.S.

So, you're right!! In essence the true meaning of MAGA is Make America Great Again, in regard to where the KKK and then evolution to DNC/Democrats have cursed this country with.

 

Ever wonder why in certain polls the they never poll the same number of people

In essence, poll a small group and use a larger percentage of polled to achieve a slightly higher then 50%

So how did the other 195 poll

 

That's no joke, Dr. ButterBalls:

“It’s way past time to put the end to the era of shareholder capitalism. The idea the only responsibility a corporation has is its shareholders — that is simply not true, it’s an absolute farce. They have a responsibility to their workers, their community, to their country.”
-- Joe Biden

Is ‘Stakeholder Capitalism’ Newspeak for Economic Fascism?
The changes favored by the ‘Great Reset’ movement would force businesses to serve the interests of ruling elites and leave true stakeholders out in the cold.
Saturday, January 23, 2021
https://fee.org/articles/is-stakeholder-capitalism-newspeak-for-economic-fascism/#:~:text=Such a system is all about sidelining the,fascism than capitalism. ‘Stakeholder Capitalism’ Versus True Stakeholders




Stakeholder Fascism Means More Loss of Liberty
Richard M. Ebeling
September 28, 2020https://www.aier.org/article/stakeholder-fascism-means-more-loss-of-liberty/

 

The left hasn't a clue what they are backing!! And it's not gonna be pretty

 

If you don't respect the result of any poll that you don't like, including the most comprehensive one in November, 2020 (81,283,501 - 74,223,975) so be it.

You can always deny them and/or contrive bogus ones you prefer.

 

So why didn't you lead out with that one

 

It's a well known fact that polls can be manipulated.

https://politicallyincorrecthumor.com/learning/2018/07/10-reasons-why-opinion-polls-cant-be-trusted/

Do you really trust them? They might be useful for a campaign to make adjustments to their propaganda, but as we've seen in past elections they aren't very reliable. As @ButterBalls rightly pointed out, if you want to accurately measure the pulse of the voter you have to ask the same voters the same questions over time.

 

And Natty knows that I love how 808 of 1003 are used So obvious...

 

I assumed that you'd be familiar with it. In any event, the sentiment persists.

MAGA Candidates Flounder in Midterms​

 

We have the purse So no money for YOU!

 

I just did. It's an organization that works to establish a dictatorship led by its founder: Donald Trump.

It's what it does therefore it's what it IS. It makes no difference how I describe it.

 

I know. Mental asylums are full of them. But there is only ONE reality. And reality is that Trump used the MAGA movement to perpetuate himself in power regardless of what the democratic process decided. Therefore, that's what the MAGA movement is for. Anything else what you would WISH they were for. And that can be a matter of opininon But reality is that this is what it's for.

 

They most definitely didn't. Their failed attempt backfired and exposed their REAL purpose. That's what you get when you have a group that follows an incompetent leader.

 

When your description is fabricated BS, it does make a difference- in your credibility, and the validity of your efforts to disparage your target based on what you tell yourself is true.... because you select your evidence like a kid picking only his favorite flavor from the jellybean jar....

 

Trump called for Mike Pence to overturn the results of Democratic elections, and called for MAGAs to pressure him to do that. He didn't do this secretly or behind closed doors. He did it publicly before TV cameras. You might not like reality, but calling it "fabricated" will not erase a single inch of film.

 

Trump's entreaties to the Vice President of the United States (Trump Called Pence a ‘Pµssy’) to defy the Constitution (Trump defended rioters who threatened to ‘hang Mike Pence’) were but one aspect of the election liar's contempt for Americans. His goons' (whom he loves) attacking outnumbered police valiantly defending democracy while he pleasured himself for hours watching, his fraudulent elector schemes, and his threats to Republican governors and secretaries of state unless they faked the certified votes of their constituents, were all a blatant manifestation of his contempt for the will of the People.

Even cultish devotion must be strained. Over two years have passed, and the Loser and his remnant of lickspittles have not been able to contrive even a single suspect in his ludicrous vast conspiracy to steal an airy-fairy "Landslide!" (Trump Falsely Claims A 'Massive Landslide Victory')

"Biden is a doddering, senile, criminal mastermind,and
Trump's investigators can't believe what they are finding in Hawaii!"​

 

And you see that as evil because you refuse to acknowledge the corruption of the election. All this gas-lighting is just evasion. IF there were no corruption, the dems wouldn't need to squeak and weasel for the last two years, they could simply have been totally open and transparent. When people slam the door on something and call you paranoid for wanting it open, you know there's a reason and it invariably says there's things there that can't stand the light of day.

If YOU had felt that an election was fixed cheating your candidate, you would just say- Well, shucks. Right? Sure you would.... Always nice when the people you rip off just lie down and keep their mouth shut. That's pitiful policy- because it will be used on you someday. Karma.

 

Me? What possible relevance would ME stating whether the election was corrupt or not have?

60+ court decisions, Republican elections authorities, Republican governors, Republican Secretaries of State, the fact that there is NO evidence of corruption, a Republican Vice-President, the large majority of Republicans in Congress ... THOSE say it was not corrupt. What possible importance would me contradicting them or not have?

Your nonsense signals desperation as you see your beloved leader coming closer and closer to spending the rest of his life in prison for creating an extremist terrorist movement to make him the nation's dictator.

 

In your opinion- everything. You think we all believe the stuff you lay down here?

 

Make America great again.

That means, in part, doing everything in our power and control to make the United States THE best place in the world to do business. Companies from around the globe should be lining up to build factories here.

Our excellent standard of living means that we cannot complete with third world countries in wages; our workers demand and deserve the highest wages.

But we can offer cheap energy, we can offer low crime and high security, we can offer low taxes, we can offer land grants, we can offer the best logistical infrastructure; highway, rail, ports, air freight... in the world.

If we were to do all this, we'd be able to preserve working conditions and high wages for our workers, and have enough work to enact a robust legal guest worker program for our friends south of the border.

Stuff like that is what maga should mean.