What in the hell did you expect...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by FatBack, May 10, 2023.

  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard 4 out of 8 walmarts are leaving that place. That is HUGE. The pathetic part here is, stricter laws would fix this problem. There is really no real motivation to NOT LOOT nor are there any real deterrents.
     
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  2. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    It is also here in Texas BTW. One so far in 2023. And there are in other states, both "red" and "blue." List of stores is below.
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/walmart-closing-batch-stores-2023-161826876.html
     
  3. FreshAir

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    Amazon is killing Walmarts, as are the self-checkouts
     
  4. Alwayssa

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    it is not the self checkouts. It is the fact that Walmart does not have anyone to monitor the self checkouts. They are generally in an "enclosed" area, and the skimmers are also becoming a huge problem as well, sometimes in Walmart. In Texas, skimmers are a major problem now and they are targeting everyone with a debit or EBT card.

    https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article268203047.html
     
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    Despite the fact that some of those states have a sensible reputation, there are pockets of "crazies" in every state. Austin, Texas where the college "educated fools" live, is an example.

    It is also possible that Walmart has recognized that they are over extended and have opened stores that don't have the markets they anticipated. In a way there are too many Walmart stores in my neighborhood. There are two big ones within easy driving distance and a couple of the smaller neighborhood outlets.
     
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    that too, but I will not go to a place that forces self-checkout
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    Back in the 1990s, when self checkouts began to appear, I heard the doom and gloom that store cashiers will be eliminated. That has not happened. But in all of the Walmarts, I have been to with self-checkout, there is always a couple of cashiers on duty, but with lines. We are just impatient people now. Originally, the self-checkouts replaced the cashier line that said "20 items or less."

    Me personally, I only use self-checkout if I have one or two items in my hand. Far easier than standing in line with someone have $200 worth of food and other stuff with two kids, etc.
     
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    This argument is so old it's whiskers are gray.

    If the people working there were capable of a better paying job, they would find one. An employer is not responsible for a person's cost of living, they pay what the labor is worth. How much do the baggers at a grocery store make, or the stockers? How about personal shoppers? Entry level work will get you entry level pay. If you want more money, you make yourself worth more.
     
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    Don't forget the actually cost of labor in this country is somewhere between two and three times the laborers take home pay for a full time 35 hour a week job.
     
  10. Alwayssa

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    that's true, but that also means you can't blame whatever group you want to blame like what the OP tried to do. But I do think the dynamics in that industry are changing. Walmart used to have "greeters" who were either elderly or those with autism or Down's syndrome. It was something Walmart offered and were very flexible until about the early 2010s when they eliminated the position. so the dynamics is online shopping, convenience where one person in line is one too many sort of a thing, and Walmart is trying to get more profit out of less. They pay well, but the cost is less employees per store to keep those prices as low as possible while still making a profit.
     
  11. Curious Always

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    Walmart pays cashiers so little, many of their employees need federal aid. We, the taxpayers, subsidize Walmart's labor costs.
     
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    that would depend on location. I do know that Walmart does pay anywhere from $7.25 per hour up to $22 per hour. In texas, generally, it is around $11 per hour, about 15% below the national average.

    https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Walmart/...ier hourly pay,15% below the national average.
     
  13. FatBack

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    They closed all four stores due to rampant theft.

    Of course the left is going to deny that because due to the political environment the Walmart CEOs won't come right out and say that even though there has been plenty of indication of that.

    They closed stores in the Portland area for the same reason.

    If you watch the video it will go into detail on it
     
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    The people in Chicago sure seem to think they need groceries
     
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    Yes literally the usual suspects (activist types) are calling it racist for walmart et al to not operate those stores at a loss and keep them open.
     
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    So Florida isn't as bad as the city of Chicago. Wild to ponder, I know.

    They don't owe any form of warning.

    That they've been operating at a loss for years, and finally hit the **** or get off the pot moment and decided to get off the pot.
     
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    An accurate analysis I would say. It is very sad to see our great cities destroyed.
     
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    IDK where you shop at, but here in suburban Texas all of our 3 walmarts have at least one person if not two working self checkout. They also have receipt takers at the entrances.
     
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    There are definitely food deserts, but it's hard to blame the grocers. The gangs need to be cleaned up, but Chicago has always been corrupt, so it won't ever happen.

    I miss a lot about living in the Chicago area, but the blatant corruption in all of Illinois isn't one of them. Three governors in my 33 years in Illinois went to prison.
     
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    That's the thing. The CEO is not saying, but YOU are. What exactly is the political environment in Arkansas, where their HQ is located? Is Arkansas suddenly a liberal bastion?

    Unprofitable stores are closed. Whatever reason makes them unprofitable is fairly irrelevant. It could be theft, it could be location, it could be many reasons. Like I said they are closing stores in Florida and a slew of other States as well and CVS is closing 300 stores.

    But if you want to twist it into some left vs right pissing match, then be my guest. That's your only point here isn't it?
     
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  21. FatBack

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    It's the same exact thing at our local Walmart.

    So four out of eight stores in that area are closing and some are going to sit here and try to tell us it's not due to the store hemorrhaging profits due to unchecked theft...huh huh ha has...lol :roflol:
     
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    FFS she QUOTED an article where they say there were bleeding money, and tried to explain it as no tenders. FFS, she doesn't seem aware that chicago has flash mobs of shoplifters and the local gov won't allow shopkeeps to do **** about it.
     
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    are you trying to imply mass looting has nothing to do with it? SNIFF SNIFF.........I smell denial
     
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    The CEOs have also cited theft concerns.

    Show me another area where half of the stores in a small area are closing. Four out of eight stores in that area.

    I guess it just happens to be a coincidence how lawless that area is and how popular looting is and how people get away with theft due to progressive policies.... That much just be a big coincidence
     
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    here is an article from December of last year where Walmart CEOs are warning about potential store closings due to increased theft.

    It's common sense that a store that is being robbed blind can't make a profit and there's no reason to keep it open.
    And my local Walmart still has the person overseeing the self-checkouts and the door greeter checking receipts.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/wal...e-if-theft-at-retailer-doesnt-decline-2022-12
     
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