What is "Truth"?

quite the opposite.

ie... there are bunches and bunches of wingnuts swinging a babbling bible and yet cannot tie their shoe without someone teaching them how too.

But the few, the contributors, the teachers of knowledge are the people who show the idiots how 'life' actually operates.

For exampe; hospital is where to heal which there has been churches, preachers and liars that continue to BS, because they have no clue.

When you need assistance and on your death bed, you will be asking the doctor to save you, not the bible.

ie... nature dont lie, people do!

Liars are the dirty. It is why the theolgical wingnuts will be judged most definitely and it will be like a Mac truck crushing their brains all over the street.


True destroys ignorance!

 

I'll be 'waiting' to see that truth come forth in YOUR postings (or 'babblings,' to use your words) in hopefully the very near future...for now, I and others will ignore them as but the self-righteous vanity of a futile mind.

And a "MERRY BABBLING" to you....

 

for example: your life is based on 'light'

agreed.

It is why all knowledge will combine under the 'absolute truth'.

Neither the religious wingnuts or the physicist of the world, have the absolute of truth; the last word.

for example: NO FALSE WITNESS.

That is a spiritual truth as it applies across the board.

ie.... equally, all of mankind can comprehend it. Not that any single theology INSPIRED it.

heck; the commands were INSPIRED by the egyptians and jews hate egypt

kind of like what i keep reminding YOU; no fricken lying!

ie.. the metaphors do unfold, with the grounding to the 'last word'...........................(the name of god (nature itself))

exactly. When the 'name' is known (the key).

ie... a paradigm shift within understanding.

And it is not in 'another' time as you are tasting it, in real time!

like i keep pointing too; mass, energy, time; (the trinity) as ONE (existence itself)

The 'name' is the math (universal language) describing the process of the three (god itself)

exactly

must adher to existence itself. Not the BS of wingnuts!

Reality is bound to what is real, not to what wingnuts believe.

That is the qualifier!

and why when i read the lies from liars, it is sick.

lying is a sin, across the board!

no false witness, then you can have a foundation to begin with.

Telling 'we the people' (mankind) that you know the truth, and yet DO NOT know the 'name' of nature (god)................ is a fib!


I am the name holder!
(and dont ask)

 

You must be exhausted after responding via OCD to my post.

It's nice to see that you enjoy and pleasure YOURSELF with the plethora of posts with line-by-line insults as the product of your verbal masturbation. Guess this is 'your thing'...?! Well, since verbal (et al) masturbation is a personal thing, I'll leave you alone to your own device...

 

I hate liars.

The UNIVERSAL comprehension is quite 'spiritual'; thou shalt not false witness.

Name one line item that i have written in false witness!?!?!?

 

is that line that you quoted from me, true?

Yes or no?

You aint ignoring 'truth'

You are ignoring your own conscious!!!!!

You are just an example.

i am learning how to deal with the wolf, by denning here!

 

Do I have to go & repeat myself again about what scripture says about 'joining a fool in his folly?!' As usual, you are just a waste of my time.....find another patsy who will humor you.

 

as a self proclaimed 'patsy', you are on a 'folly' of theological garbage

But thankfully, others are not so complacent and now we have computers to learn with!

 

Not "exactly". "Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. " The scripture clearly limits that which may be known about God; and clearly shows that other aspects of God have been reserved for His own self. Nature does, according to scripture, reveal some of the attributes of God, but those attributes of God are not the entirety of God nor are they (standing alone) God.

 

I respect your belief and would add that the U.S. was founded on the belief of a Creator (or God if you will) granting certain inalienable rights to man. The belief in God as the final arbiter of rights (and not not a mortal man or a State) is a huge advancement for the human race as evidenced by the fact that the U.S. has become the greatest country on the face of the Earth.

 

You are right again. The US did advance to the status of the greatest nation on earth. Now what is so 'greatest' about that advancement? The US supposedly did away with slavery on or about 1863 or 1864 (Proclamation of Emancipation).... However, that slavery simply changed in its appearance. Now there are more slaves in the US than there was prior to the Emancipation of Proclamation... ECONOMIC SLAVES... Slaves to the international banking cartel. Heck, that same 14th amendment stipulates that American citizens cannot even audit the finances of the Federal Reserve (the regulators of commerce and the owners of all Federal Reserve Notes {typically known as 'dollars' or 'greenbacks'}. So here we all sit, in a slave status (economic slaves) and nothing can be done about it from this end without resorting to some action that is not socially acceptable. Volunteers to a form of slavery. Yeppir... still the greatest nation on earth.

Now back to the topic of what is 'truth'.

 

Nature has no intentions - and nature is a complex process not a person. There is by the way not really a difference if you call god "my mother" instead of "my father". As far as I know was Hildgard of Bingen the first woman who said so in the christian world. Men and women in her time were deeply surprised when she said so - but nearly immediatelly nearly everyone agreed. Neverthelless it is dangerous to say god is not a man and not a woman. God is living in both principles without confusion and we are part of him in both ways - but it's nothing new that human beings are often very confused - me too - and that this world all around is also very confusing. So "take your time wherever you go" - we need some time to come in harmony with god. If you don't use your view in nature only on agressvie reasons but because you are convinced you found a piece of truth then I'm sure you will be able to break the chains of the thought that you are only a slave of your nature. There's more. Seek and you will find.

http://youtu.be/D4insqFNx_M

 

Keep searching for it...you are indeed lost.

 

And you should take off that mask that clouds your vision. You brought up the subject of government (secular) and you got a secular response. That is why I suggested that we get back on topic of What is 'Truth'. Try to stay focused and if you wish to continue the discussion of government and what you think government has accomplished, then take that subject to an appropriate 'government' (not Religious) section of the forum.

 

The U.S. is where belief meets government and government is not controlled by belief but still is morally moderated by it owing to 'belief' of individuals. I have already stated that 'truth' (with regard to religion) is belief. So stop with the castigation and pompous attitude.

 

Castigation of what? The infamous status of the US has absolutely nothing to do with the religious meaning of 'truth'. Stick to the subject.

 

This is the sort of stuff that turns your good idea for a thread into a stinker. Just saying...

 

Truth is not bound to religion.

 

My views on politics is not having anything to do with my religious views as they are worlds apart. What it seems you are saying is that because I speak against secularism, that my views are not worth reading. I suppose that you also view the actions of Jesus responding to the secular activity in the temple as being a 'stinker'?

 

Then define truth as outlined in the OP and stay on topic.

 

No--I'm saying you're too controlling for a message board discussion.

Who wants to take the time to formulate a response just to be told they are not on topic and redirected because the OP poster wants to control the parameters of the discussion so tightly?

 

'too controlling'? How so? Everyone is going to publish what they want to publish and I have absolutely no control over what they publish.

Why allow a thread to go 'off-topic' when doing so only distracts from the subject of the discussion? Such as what you are attempting to do at this point in time.

 

Truth is what you call something that doesn't go away if you stop believing in it.

 

I already did on the second post of the thread.


Here; (just in case your reading comprehension is not doing very well)



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Originally Posted by Incorporeal
Because this is a 'religious' segment of the PF, it is necessary to place this question in relation to 'religion'.

The majority of religious belief, aint TRUE!


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Therefore, from a perspective of those people on the forum who consider themselves to be 'religious' (believers in a Supreme Being, Creator of all that was created ... IE... Theists);

people that believe in some separate 'god' would be pagen, truth be told of course.


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What is the religious meaning of the word 'truth'?

perhaps start with 'no false witness', then it is easy to avoid false truth

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From my own perspective as one of those 'theists', I would have to say that "truth" is best expressed by the passage of scripture in the Bible that states (in the KJV)

such as

Matt 16:20 Then did he charge his disciples that they may say to no one that he is Jesus the Christ

I find that is true.

but not all of bible:

for example:

Revelation 4
1After these things I saw, and lo, a door opened in the heaven, and the first voice that I heard [is] as of a trumpet speaking with me, saying, `Come up hither, and I will shew thee what it behoveth to come to pass after these things;'

2and immediately I was in the Spirit, and lo, a throne was set in the heaven, and upon the throne is [one] sitting,

3and He who is sitting was in sight like a stone, jasper and sardine: and a rainbow was round the throne in sight like an emerald.

4And around the throne [are] thrones twenty and four, and upon the thrones I saw the twenty and four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and they had upon their heads crowns of gold;

5and out of the throne proceed do lightnings, and thunders, and voices; and seven lamps of fire are burning before the throne, which are the Seven Spirits of God,

6and before the throne [is] a sea of glass like to crystal, and in the midst of the throne, and round the throne, [are] four living creatures, full of eyes before and behind;

7and the first living creature [is] like a lion, and the second living creature [is] like a calf, and the third living creature hath the face as a man, and the fourth living creature [is] like an eagle flying




No god on no throwns....... that is for the pagens!



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"..I am the way, the truth and the life."

i dont believe YOU

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[accredited to having been said by Jesus, speaking of Himself].

how can a person be 'truth'?

truth is based on what others can measure, truth is not a person

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I believe that what is being expressed is the idea that 'truth' can best be recognized through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, and can be learned through His teachings.

well, we can see............ that aint 'truth'

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What is your religious perspective on the word "truth"?

that which is real

Or............ "what is true to existence"

 

When you learn how to use proper quote functions, then I will address the issues that you might have placed in the text below. I will not spend even a minute attempting to decipher what you have so carelessly or maliciously placed for people to consider.

Have a nice evening.