What is white privilege?

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  1. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    Equal opportunity, not the elevation of the less capable according to some racial or other quota system.

    Until blacks in the US are willing to step out of their dependency caste and act like responsible adults toward their children their IQ scores will continue to average about 15 points lower, on average, than whites.

    Who wants a boss like that?

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/10/e...heory-on-blacks-iq-scores.html?pagewanted=all
     
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    (boldface mine)

    Right. Nepotism among wealthy whites.

    If you think poor whites get any benefit from that you are blind.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    The internal emotional contortions of privileged white liberals have nothing to do with it, as the success of newly arrived Blacks from Africa proves.

    What is going on with American blacks is an internal self wounding from which they must recover, and the first step will be refusing to be bought off by an ill considered welfare system that makes young, ignorant black women think that having a baby entitles them to a check and an apartment of their own, and that a legal father for their child is unnecessary.
     
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    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    Again, generalizations. If these allegations have valid statistical support, are the deficiencies noted caused by inbred genetic differences, or a result of the influence of longstanding prejudices and discriminatory practices which have effected irresponsible behavior? Stereotypically assigning fault to races or classes exacerbates the division caused by racism.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    You obviously didn't even bother to open my link.
     
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    YOU are the one that didn't read your own link. The following is a direct quote from it:

    "The lower I.Q. scores of children in these minorities, Dr. Ogbu and others propose, spring from factors such as prejudice, either blatant or subtle. In one pernicious form, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy growing out of teachers' expecting less of black children, and so tacitly treating them in ways that make that expectation come true. ''Too many educators underestimate the potential and ability of poor kids generally, and castelike minorities in particular,'' said Dr. Erickson of the University of Pennsylvania. ''One of the most powerful influences on a black child is the beliefs of his teachers about his academic potential.''

    Another factor is the grinding poverty in the lives of many blacks and other minority children. The poor child is vulnerable to many stresses from which his better-off classmates are protected; when something goes wrong in the family, the poor child is more likely to carry such problems into his school life.

    Perhaps most demoralizing - and with greatest consequences for I.Q. and school achievement - is that blacks and other minority members face a job ceiling. Consistent pressures and obstacles relegate them to jobs of low status and income, while whites compete far more successfully for jobs above that ceiling. They see that others in their group hold menial jobs, that relatively few attain outstanding career success, and that even those who do attain middle-class jobs still often feel discrimination."


    Poverty isn't usually a preferred choice; families often are torn apart when there is no means of support.

    "Options" implies that there are alternatives.
     
  7. Pycckia

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    And yet the racial gap in IQ persists when socioeconomic status (SES) is controlled for:

    "Generally the difference between mean test scores of blacks and whites is not eliminated when individuals and groups are matched on SES, suggesting that the relationship between IQ and SES is not simply one in which SES determines IQ. Rather it may be the case that differences in intelligence, particularly parental intelligence, may also cause differences in SES, making separating the two factors difficult."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Socioeconomic_environment

    The SJW's have a truckload of alibis, but the research doesn't bear them out.
     
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    The chief problem with the idea white privilege is that it has become a ready made excuse for failure. It is a liars excuse to do nothing and a reason to whine when getting of your ass and working would serve you far better. The Tuskegee airmen made it. And if you think racism is as bad now as it was then you're smoking the really good stuff (which by the way regardless of race creed or color you really ought to stop because economically it's killing not just you but your whole race).

    Please note My fellow Americans who happen to be of African decent. You are currently 12% of the population. Given current demographic trends by 2050 you will be lucky to be 5% of the population and no one will give a damn about you or your desires or your politics. Why you ask? 1. illegal immigration. 2 abortion and a distant third black on black crime. About a mllionth on the list is Caucasian cops killing unarmed black kids but that's what those who proclaim themselves your leaders have chosen to go after, which, by the way, and predictably so I might add, has had the pernicious effect of increasing the odds that a black teenager will be killed by another black teenager.
     
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    Who said wealthy whites were the only one's with privilege? I sure didn't.
     
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    I'm not sure what that is...

    All I'm saying is...of course, there's racism still in the media. You probably think I'm just talking about Black people. But the media is full of a lot of negative messages against a lot of groups and people. It's...the media. I guess the people who have actually been hurt by it the most will complain about it the most. I think this is a reasonable assumption.
     
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    Ok, here is your original source.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
    The article says Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer

    Lets make search for "Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer"

    Getting numerous articles most of them have this
    The U.S. Sentencing Commission revealed in a new report that the sentences of black men were on average 19.5% longer than the sentences of white men from December 2007 to September 2011.

    Searching on U.S. Sentencing Commission
    http://www.ussc.gov/research-and-publications/topical-index-publications#BbSubject
    http://www.ussc.gov/research-and-publications

    I have read the report and found nothing.
    There is absolutely nothing about racism or bias against African Americans.
    Yes some people interpreted data as a manifestation of racism, because it is politically or economically profitable for them.

    But in reality there is no proof that racism or bias are the reasons for longer sentences.
     
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    The only rationale for publicizing such studies is to justify bigotry and white supremacy. Would you be offended if I introduced data saying that liberals are statistically more intelligent than conservatives?

    The only purpose for that would be to widen the gap dividing us. Equality should not be subject to quantification, and to magnify our differences promotes racial tension.
     
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    Seems you're all ranted out. The OP still states that white peoples names got a privilege on the job market.. that's white privilege.
    And all you're doing is blame the black people that white names got a privilege. Thats rahter nuts.
    There we have it. Racist slurs.
     
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    Offended? No, I don't think so. It is probably true. How can anyone be offended by the truth?

    As far as suppressing such research, I wouldn't want to join in a political movement which requires suppressing the truth to succeed.

    It smacks of totalitarian thought control. Where does it end?
     
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    My original source reads.... "sentences of blacks were on average 15.2% longer than the sentences of similarly situated whites"
    White privilege right there, buddy,
     
  16. thinkitout

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    Tactfulness, tolerance, and civility can in no way be construed as being hypocritical or suppressive. If the sole purpose of a publication is degradation, to find it morally distasteful does not mean we advocate censure of the First Amendment. Ever hear of Eugenics?

    Just because we don't suppress something doesn't mean we have to validate it.
     
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    Do they take in consideration if these are first, second or third offences?
     
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    There are options.

    One is to insist on more funding for Headstart programs instead of pssg it away on Communist brainwashing "consciousness raising" for advantaged blacks in ivy league colleges stirring up Marxist hornets' nests.

    Another is for blacks to go back to two-parent families and show disapproval for unwed pregnancies.

    Another is for black parents to insist that their children be respectful to teachers, the police, and other authority figures--why aspire to BE a leader if they are not worthy of respect?

    Etc.

    I always read my links; don't expect one-sided links from me because I am not one-sided. There were other things in that link as well which you are deliberately ignoring.
     
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    My obvious point was that poor whites do not benefit from wealthy white nepotism any more than poor blacks do--probably less, IMO.
     
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    If there is a place to sign up for white privilege I would like to know. I keep hearing about this and I have been left out.
     
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    Me, too.
     
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    Uh, no. Science should not walk on eggshells to satisfy political correctness. The rationale for publicizing such studies is that such studies were done and it would be a waste if the knowledge gleaned from them were to remain unknown. Plugging our ears just because we want to be good little liberals is never the answer.


    I wouldn't, if it were good science. Neither would I be offended if good science were presented stating that blacks can, on average, run faster, or have bigger dicks. But it seems that if white people ever have a genetic advantage, we are to pretend that it doesn't exist (or we're just trying to justify bigotry and white supremacy), that the only reason whites ever succeed is because of their own racism in the form of "white privilege", and never due to their own merits.
     
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    Please, the excuse never stop. White privilege is just the latest. Low IQ, poor impulse control and lack of future time orientation combined with Democratic social polices have created this. Libs never address this. It's like this everywhere. Camden, East St. Louis, Birmingham, Baltimore etc etc eye, where large majorities of Blacks have inherited the infrastructure that Whites have built. No libs ever look in the mirror. Just think, the all time homicide rate for Chicago for the month of January may be broken this weekend virtually all them Black on Black. Yeah, Black lives matter.
     
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    If you are not one-sided, you need to devote equal time to making disparaging remarks about irresponsible whites. By the way, who is the opposition?

    Speaking of things that are deliberately ignored, apparently my previous posts fall into that category.
     
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    The response speaks for itself. This poster should've pled the 5th Amendment.
     
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