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What Rights (If Any) Should Be Awarded To Homosexual Couples? Part 3

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Makedde, Jan 23, 2012.

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You're correct, it isn't "Christian"; nothing like Jesus (that's for sure).

    What you experienced was someone being a 'jerk', spewing arrogant, religious-sounding junk; the kind that only causes people to reject religion overall. It's just hateful and shameful BS.

    Ignore that person.
     
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    You have not reasoning, admit it.
     
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    marriage has nothing to do with sterile people, you have missed the point.
     
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    nonsense. sterile people are premitted to marry. it very clearly has something to do with sterile people. you have missed the point.
     
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    It is your opinion, and that opinion is wrong.
    First you have to find any identifiable, logical reason why gays should be awarded special rights.
    The only legitimate and identifiable reason why heterosexual couples are licensed and regulated is that heterosexual couples have unplanned babies.
    If you find any reason why homosexual couples should be licensed let me know.
     
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    Marriage is not a collection of benefits that are permitted or not permitted.
    Marriage is a set of law regulating and licensing relationship between a man and a woman.
     
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    Kreo I hope you get around to addressing my point about civil unions/ANY legal rights for gay couples...
     
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    Marriage is not a collection of benefits to please selective types of couples.
    Marriage is a law that regulates relationship between a man and a woman. It does not address needs of sterile couples.
     
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    Civil union is a not a right, but rather willingness of general public to accommodate needs of gay couples. It has nothing to do with marriage.
    That is a whole point.
    Extending definition of marriage for homosexuals only is a special rights for homosexuals and a violation of my right to marry any person I want.
     
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    Wow, you couldn't be more wrong there and I'm amazed you've managed to include so many misinformed statements in just a few strokes of your keyboard... :/

    Civil Unions aren't rights now?? You're joking right?! As I said - civil unions ARE the rights. They are identical to marriage in all but name. Civil unions create a separately titled but equal institution.

    To say then you oppose "special rights" for gay people is laughable if you support CUs. Changing the name doesn't alter what it is. The rights you are referring to - those "special" rights - are still being awarded to same sex couples under civil union law.

    You're obsessing not over the rights but over the name. A NAME. What part of that are you not able to understand?
     
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    Man, that's just stupid. You are so very wrong. Try again.

    Please, elaborate.

    So, the "whole point" (of your commentary) is nonsense? Right?

    The kind of ideas you are communicating above, are the kind I typically hear from people after they've been drinking awhile.
     
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    Wasn't aware an opinion could be wrong... but that's your opinion, so it can't be wrong... wait... =P

    Anywho, so we've defined marriage as a whole to be defined as a special right to anyone a la "The only legitimate and identifiable reason why heterosexual couples are licensed and regulated is that heterosexual couples have unplanned babies," and the whole special rights sentence before that.

    So why should anyone be allowed to get married? Only people with children should be allowed to get married, and unplanned children at that.

    If we say that marriage (or civil union in a secular setting) is a right, not a special right, but a right, than it should be open to all people.
     
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    Whoever started the thread and titled it "What Rights (If Any) Should Be Awarded To Homosexual Couples? Part 3" did. And all the court cases extending marriage to homosexual couples did. Constitutional rights created to counter what they view as animus towards homosexuals. There is no animus towards the thousands of single parents and grandparents raising children together so no rights to marriage, "Awarded To Homosexual Couples"
     
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    Encouraging couples of the opposite sex to marry, reduces the # of children born to single mothers. Encouraging couples of the same sex to marry does not.
     
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    no it doesn't. the majority of marriages end in divorce.
    having no relevance what so ever to the topic, since the ability or intention to procreate is a requirement of marriage.
     
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    Whoever started the thread and titled it "What Rights (If Any) Should Be Awarded To Homosexual Couples? Part 3" did.
     
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    Really? I don't see that in the op... nor the op from #2, nor the op from the original. I see them talking about the issue of homosexuals being denied these rights (as they would belong to ssm) but no where can I find anyone saying anything about this only being extended to homosexuals. No one has said two heterosexual men should not be able to marry each other if they wish (similar to the friends that marry now for the benefits)

    The few of you saying that ssm should be illegal are the only ones throwing that strawman around along with "I can't marry my brother!!!" - seems you're misinformed again...
     
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    Top of the page, in the title of the thread. "What Rights (If Any) Should Be Awarded To Homosexual Couples? Part 3"
     
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