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What Russia's deadliest nuclear sub could do to the US

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, my poorly informed comrades, but you're wrong, as usual:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov



    https://taskandpurpose.com/admiral-kuznetsov-aircraft-carrier-disaster/

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/g2412/a-global-roundup-of-aircraft-carriers/
     
    Nemesis, Dec 22, 2018
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    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    employerofdelusions is constantly wrong. Alaska was purchased, my ignorant chum:

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/sewards-folly

    U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward signs a treaty with Russia for the purchase of Alaska for $7 million. Despite the bargain price of roughly two cents an acre, the Alaskan purchase was ridiculed in Congress and in the press as “Seward’s folly,” “Seward’s icebox,” and President Andrew Johnson’s “polar bear garden.”
     
    Nemesis, Dec 22, 2018
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  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jimmy Carter was probably the best president the U.S. ever had. Maybe the best president the U.S. ever will have.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  5. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess it's time for you to learn a lesson.
    The Kuznetsov is a heavy aviation cruiser.
    Do you take salt with your crow?

    http://www.military-today.com/navy/kuznetsov_class.htm
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  6. Phyxius

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    Phyxius, Dec 22, 2018
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  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An RESD? No, that would be the Spruce Goose.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  8. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    The Spruce Goose at least could consistently move under its own power.
     
    Phyxius, Dec 22, 2018
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    Admiral Kuznetsov can be described with one perfect Russian word - хуйня!
    In crude translation means piece of turd.
     
    Thedimon, Dec 22, 2018
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    The 52 people he left hostage for more than a year in Tehran might well disagree.

    The millions who suffered through double digit inflation and double digit interest rates might also disagree.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    U.S.S. Indianapolis-1943
    U.S.S. Lake Champlain-modern day.
     
    Dayton3, Dec 22, 2018
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  12. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How often did it do that, pray tell? Perhaps I should ask "how many times did it move at all?"
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  13. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is this suppose to mean? Whether or not these vessels were Cruisers or not has nothing to do with the subject. The fact is that the Kuznetsov is a Cruise ship.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Enough that no rational person would think it was less reliable than that Russian POS.
     
    Phyxius, Dec 22, 2018
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The incident in Tehran was justified pay-back for Operation TP Ajax and Jimmy Carter was not at fault for either event.

    I understand that inflation was a problem but it remains that Carter was probably the best president the U.S. ever had and I don't think you can blame Carter for that problem.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a reason that plane is called the 'Spruce GOOSE'. No rational person would think it was a success or even useful.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also, Iran demanded the U.S. send back the Shah for prosecution. The U.S. refused so the hostages remained. Had the U.S. given up the Shah he would have squealed like a pig and the details of U.S. treachery in Iran would now be common knowledge. So ....... the hostages remained.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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    Lol, yah, i learned long ago, when I set foot on USS Eisenhower, Carl Vinson, JFK....theyre ACCs.



    It carries numerous jets....it's an ACC.

    But afaic....since the ACC Kutmyownnutsoff gets towed.....it a massive POS.:).
     
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    Norwegian "cruise" lines are cruise ships...with casinos, pools, restaurants, ball rooms, ....ships that carry fighter jets, are ACCs.
     
    zoom_copter66, Dec 22, 2018
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  20. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your copter has zoomed off course. The Kuznetsov is a Cruiser and I have presented you with the proof of it.
     
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    The same could be said about Russia's disaster of naval aviation, wouldn't you say?
     
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  22. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :laughing:
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see any Americans courageous enough to take them
    on.
     
    Thingamabob, Dec 22, 2018
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  24. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Well someone has jumped the shark... :roflol:
     
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    Or vice versa? Wait - Ivan would actually have to be able to make it to the combat zone without being towed there.

    Besides, why would we waste expensive ordinance on a 'cruise ship?' :roflol:
     
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