What should be subsidized besides health care?

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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Ew, you think I'm a conservative. Now I have to go take a shower.

    Obviously taxation is theft. It is one person taking the property of another.
     
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    Then you and your ilk should fund such organizations.
     
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    Yes well you're free to pay municipal or maybe even state taxes to help fund all those things you want to do for your disabled neighbors. Me? I'll keep my money in my own pocket.

    That way you get to pay taxes to help those wonderful people, I keep my money where it belongs, and we're both happier than two pigs in a warm puddle of mud.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we do, via our taxes, that is what society does
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WWJD... not elect Trump that is for sure


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 25:31-46;&version=9;

    "ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. "
     
  6. Belch

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    There are any number of ways to get out of paying taxes. I use those that are beneficial to me.

    Otherr than that, you really don't have anything going for you. Certainly nothing in the way of an argument. Just a lot of "so you don't like being a prisoner? Well what are you going to do? If you aren't trying to break out of prison, you're just babbling."

    sorry, but you need to study up on how to formulate proper arguments and rebuttals.
     
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    never said you were, did you think you were acting Christian?

    do you think Trump is a Christian?
     
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  9. Longshot

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    Ah. Taking people’s property by force. It always comes back to that.
     
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    Says the guy whose rebuttal was a bunch of nonsense. The fact is you pay taxes just like everyone else does. You go on and on complaining about how much you don’t like paying taxes but you do nothing about it. That’s hysterical.
     
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    It is a part of human society. Whoever has a power will take your property by force. There is no way around it, unless you are the king.
    In the Western world people have a choice to elect the king and All King's Men by more or less democratic process.
     
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    Until people decide that it is unacceptable. Then it won't be part of human society, because society will reject it as being illegitimate.
     
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    Like trying to spread the word in public forums with extensive reach?
     
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    So now your back to "the law" argument.
    Arguing "it's the law" in a philosophical debate is kindergarten calibre
     
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    Spreading ideas in public forums with extensive reach is doing nothing?
    Your tuffy act is charming, really.
     
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    How do you know whether or not @Belch pays taxes?
     
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    Cheating on taxes should be the goal of every red blooded American Patriot!

    Taxation is theft.
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    Your taxes goes towards plundering other countries and the murder of hundreds of thousands of other wise peaceful peoples.

    That is what "society"paying taxes does, and anyone who endorsed taxation endorses this behavior.
     
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    we have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.
     
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    That's nice
     
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    You are welcome to change the law.
    All you have to do is to convince people that citizens with high income should have special privileges like free health care.
     
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    your free to move to a country with no taxes if you want... good luck with that
     
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    Thank you for your permission.
    Now perhaps you can debate at a higher level?
     
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    And one person has the right to use the threat of force to take another's property how? How is this right acquired?
     
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    Such questions should be answered at the State and local level.
     
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