What should be subsidized besides health care?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you still struggling to come with a point? Go ahead keep trying...
     
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    I wasn’t the one who stated a message board was a way to make change happen. Your faux outrage needs to be directed at that person. Carry on.
     
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    That is the point.

    You want other people to pay for your healthcare because you think it's a right.

    But it isn't a right.

    You have the right to use your own money to pay for whatever healthcare services you want, but you do not have the right to make other people pay for it.
     
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    That's because you're not interested in prevention, only in a momentary cure. You'd sacrifice all of those future potential homeless people (etc) to keep the comparatively tiny number who exist today, comfortable. That's absurd.
     
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    Keep making it easy for them and you'll create more, and more, and more. YOU will be responsible, because you didn't like the temporary pain of change. Are you seriously unable to see how wrong that is? That's why Western society is collapsing .. this spoiled baby resistance to discomfort and personal responsibility.
     
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    You were the one who said the following: No you’re right. The way to get the govt to stop taxing us is through a message board.

    That's a strawman. Nobody said posting on a message board was "the way" to end taxation. Posting on a forum is only one way of many. Do you understand the difference? Because it's a pretty simple one.
     
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  7. ECA

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    I never claimed it was the only way. But that was the way that was suggested by a certain person in this thread.
     
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    They are not injured, they have chosen a lifestyle. And there is nothing civil about feting such people, while the genuinely 'fallen' (ie, starving, war torn, victims of natural disasters, etc) go without. And there's nothing civil about encouraging more dissolution by enabling it. That's bad parenting. Like rewarding your kids for doing the wrong thing, and then getting upset when they constantly do the wrong thing.

    A civil society is made up of civil people. ie, responsible citizens. The kindest thing you can do for society is participate in it in responsible fashion.
     
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    Nobody else claimed it either.

    Nobody suggested that. You're arguing against a strawman.
     
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    The only places where injured people are left on the streets to rot are big cities controlled by Democrats. If someone in my community were injured on the street and in need of help, people would be rushing in to offer assistance. The government doesn't have to force us to help people.
     
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    When the best arguments they have are straw men and hyperbole...
     
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    Wrong. Someone did claim it.
     
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    You’re just as wrong as the other one
     
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    The way to eliminate the state for people to reject it for the criminal organization that it is. This requires education. Education requires communication. An internet forum is a communication mechanism.
     
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    actually your wrong, it's republican states like AZ and TX with their republican death panels
     
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    I have said no such thing. If that was your point, it was idiotic.

    Something tells me you heard it from one of those right wingnut media brain dead propagandists, and it sounded so great to you, that you just had to find somebody to falsely ascribe it to. Am I right? Of course I am!

    Bottom line, as I said: you have no point.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    You don't think that healthcare is a right? I thought I remember you saying that it was.
     
  19. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Definitely a right.

    But now I understand why you guys were unable to make a point. Because you weren't trying to make a point. You were trying to set up a joke.

    Pretty lame joke. And all that time and posts for such a stiff punch line. But... anyway. . I guess it's better than denying people their rights.
     
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    Okay, so now healthcare is a right. Flippedy floppedy.

    But healthcare as a right requires violating your neighbors' rights, no? So how can we all have the right to violate our neighbors' rights?
     
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    It is a power reserved for the States or Individual per the 10th.

    The Greatest State of California did a better job at indigent medical care
    before LBJ 1964 MediCaid.

    floppedy flippedy :woot:
    And Constitutional too.
     
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    So I have a right for you to provide me health care? Isn't that kind of like slavery?
     
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    Define right and demonstrate how healthcare falls under this category
     
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    Oh, come on. That's just unfair. You're a very bad man. A very bad man.
     
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    I guess it depends on what State you live.
    Read above please.



    BTW I have a hard time believing some indigent, vagrant
    who could never afford to live in Venice Beach, Santa Monica
    or San Francisco California may get "homeless housing" in
    their preferred neighborhood as a right.
     
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