When The Russian Hoax Is Exposed, Should The Democrats Be Held Accountable?

This is Brennan's direct quote: "I don’t have sufficient information to make a determination whether or not there was cooperation or complicity or collusion.”

 

will Trump suffer from TDS while sitting in his prison cell?

 

At least Trump's response will be based on the law unlike the hysterical left so a lawyer will be needed.

 

OH! You mean this hoax!!!

Dubious Russian Intel Doc Spurred Comey To Speak On Clinton Emails Probe
...Still, the Post reported that the document had a major impact on Comey, who believed he needed to speak publicly about the Clinton email server case in order to get out ahead of accusations of coziness and special favors. Without giving Lynch a heads up, and in the heat of the general election, he publicly criticized Clinton’s handling of classified material over email, a decision some have argued helped Donald Trump clinch the presidency....

...Former FBI Director James Comey told Congress in early May that he felt “mildly nauseous” at the idea that he may have influenced the outcome of the U.S. election by speaking publicly about Hillary Clinton’s “carelessness” in using a private e-mail server as secretary of state...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/was...-memo-motivated-comey-handling-clinton-emails

 

yes, cause all of Trump's statements so far have been civil, rational, and logical.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

 

"Over in the House Former CIA Director Brennan testified there was enough evidence of cooperation and collusion to refer his Intel to the FBI for an investigation."

Exactly! He did *NOT* say there was collusion.

 

How can he say that there was collusion until they are finished investigating? The purpose of the investigation is to determine if there was, which btw, has nothing to do with the possible obstruction of justice, which is a separate issue.

 

What's false about it, are you suggesting there aren't 17 intelligence agencies saying Russia was trying to interfere with our elections?

False charges? first of all, there are no charges at all, not to mention false charges. We have 17 different intelligence agencies who are saying that Russia was attempting to interfere with our elections. We have a national security adviser who has confessed to accepting funds from a Russian backed source for speaking at an event in Moscow (which is illegal) who also got caught illegally discussing sanctions with the Russian ambassador, and then lying to his superiors about it. Then there's the evidence from the state department that suggests that members of the Trump campaign were in contact with Russian officials during the election. One of those being the current Attorney General, who while under oath misleadingly suggested he had no contacts with Russia during the campaign. So of course there's going to be an investigation, and if the investigation finds that no American state or campaign officials colluded with Russia, then that will work to their favor, as it will allow for them too clear their names of any wrong doing

..but if it is discovered that there was a collusion with Russia.. THEN, and only then will there be legal charges.

 

Since there has been absolutely *NO* evidence of collusion produced in almost a year of investigation exactly what is being investigated? Collusion is not a crime. If you believe it is then I would like for you to provide a reference in the US Code that states such. I can't find one!

How do you obstruct justice without there being a crime being investigated?

 

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There is also evidence that Hillary campaign officials were in touch with Russian officials during the election. Why isn't she being investigated?

One of Session's contacts was shaking hands at a campaign rally with a Russian official. Are you suggesting that such an action has some kind of nefarious purpose?

The Marxist Democrats are digging another pit for themselves to drown in just like they did with Dirty Harry Reid's nuclear option. In 2020 the Democrat candidates are going to be subjected to intense surveillance by the intelligence community as well as by the FBI. It's called karma.

 

No of course not. there are a lot of worthwhile investigations that find no wrongdoing. We should not hold police 'accountable' because they investigate a possible murder, or child abuse and find no charges appropriate. We don't even hold those who report a possible crime accountable, when it turns out they were wrong.

You see there are virtues to this investigatory process, regardless of any specific outcome.

 

Who's saying they aren't going to investigate the Clinton campaign's contacts with Russia? of course they should investigate their contacts with Russia. When you have 17 intelligence agencies saying Russia was trying to meddle with our elections, and then you've got evidence showing campaign officials making contacts with Russia, OF COURSE you investigate. There's no rational reason to not investigate.

As for Sessions' contacts with Russia, one was a private meeting that took place in Sessions' office, the other was at an event. Just because the latter meeting was a short exchange doesn't mean we shouldn't investigate the prior meeting, that's impractical.. Its also worth noting Sessions was the only person on the Armed Forces Committee who met with Russia during that period, and then while under oath he misleadingly suggested he had no contacts with Russia during the campaign. In response, he rightfully recused himself from the investigation.

All an investigation means is we take an official course of action to uncover the truth. I'm not opposed to that, and you shouldn't be either

 

You sound as if you are attempting to convince yourself of something. Time and a thorough investigation will tell. I don't think this has been an ongoing investigation for a year and even if it has been, with all of the connections and players, this is not an easy web to untangle. Anyway, the obstruction of justice issue is a relatively new revelation.

 

I wish some of the people spouting this stuff in the mainstream media would be held accountable. But that's not gonna happen...

Agreed.

I too believe there's enough evidence, but the problems all originate in the Obama administration. I'm hoping the Special Counsel is looking into everything. That will be a major plus.

Crimes have been committed. The leaking of classified information is a crime. The improper/unjustified unmasking of an American citizen is a crime. Improper/unjustifiable surveillance of American citizens, that's a crime. So yes, there's a great deal of things to be investigated.

Exactly right. The investigation is a good thing, especially if conducted in a non-partisan manner.

 

Former CIA Director John Brennan testified on Tuesday that intelligence officials had found "contacts and interaction" between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and agents for the Russian government.

 

The Tree of Liberty gets thirsty from time to time.

 

Brennan testified only three. Hillary said 17.

 

Sorry but that's not much solace

 

It’s getting real . . . Trump hires NY attorney as the noose tightens around him

Trump plans to retain Marc Kasowitz as his personal attorney to represent him in the federal investigation into his campaign’s alleged ties to Russia, according to media reports.

Fox Business and ABC News reported that Trump is expected to bring aboard the New York-based lawyer, who has represented Trump numerous times in the past.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://www.donaldtrumpbullshit.com/uncategorized/its-getting-real-trump-hires-ny-attorney-as-the-noose-tightens-around-him/

 

The source of the 17 intelligence agencies is actually the Director of National Intelligence's joint statement, not Hillary Clinton (although Hillary did make that statement), and according to John Brennan, Russia had “brazenly interfered” in US elections. Whether or not Russia was attempting to meddle with our elections is hardly in question, we know they were, and the purpose of the investigation is to uncover how deep their meddling goes. We need to investigate if any American state or campaign officials (be it by bribery, blackmail, or conflict of interest) were in fact colluding with Russia in their interference with our elections.

In Brennan's own words

"I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and US persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals. It raised questions in my mind about whether Russia was able to gain the cooperation of those individuals."

As for Brennan testifying that the Director of National Intelligence's joint statement comes from 3 intelligence agencies. I am not familiar with that statement, and am going to have to ask for a source.

 

Dems know no shame and hold themselves to a lower standard.

They still don't know why they lost.

In other news, they are now referring to Trumps budget cuts as "ethnic cleansing".

These guys are professional hucksters.

 

So we are expected to believe that the Russians were out to corrupt members of the Trump campaign but never tried to corrupt anyone from the Obama administration over the past 8 years?

And that Sperbank never paid the Podesta brothers? And that Bill clinton never rec'd 500K for a Russian speech? And Hillary never rec'd unreported millions that were routed through Canada and directly into the foundation coffers.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/23...-cash-while-negotiating-russian-uranium-deal/

Who would have thought?

 

Just waiting for the book deals from those involved ... Wonder who is going to play Trump in the movie? Spicer is a done deal.

We all warned you that Trump was a Drama Queen and that it was going to four years one crisis after another.