When The Russian Hoax Is Exposed, Should The Democrats Be Held Accountable?

When the opposite proves to be true...what will Trumpers say?

 

Right...More like the day of violence is coming when no collusion is found. Yes, your world is about to come crumbling down.

 

Why are you so convinced that you use 'when' instead of 'if'? Is there something you know that you should share with the investigators?

 

Not yet. The investigation has a long way to go. You can start celebrating if Trump and his team are exonerated. Right now that seems a bit premature.

 

Former CIA Director Cuts Through Neo-McCarthyite Hysteria, Says Interactions With Russia Are Not Evidence of Collusion.....

Yesterday former CIA Director John Brennan said the notion that Russia tried to interfere in our election and the allegations of collusion were well founded. At the same time, that doesn’t mean he has evidence of collusion, which he outright said he did not have. Brennan's exact words were “I don’t know.” So, if the media and the Left get excited about the Russian collusion allegations being confirmed, here's some cold water. The former CIA director said that interactions and meetings with the Russians during the 2016 cycle are not evidence of collusion. He noted that suspicions and inquiries are warranted due to the alleged activity being executed in the timeframe of a presidential election. Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) asked MR. Brennan “if someone left this hearing today and said you had indicated that those contacts were evidence of collusion or collaboration, they would be misrepresenting your statements, correct?”

“They would have misheard my response to the very good questions that were asked of me,” the former CIA director said. “I’m trying to be as clear as possible in terms of what I know, what I assess, and what I can say.”

Turner pressed on asking, “But you would say that a misinterpretation of your statement, yes?”

“I would say that it’s not an accurate portrayal of my statement. Absolutely—it was inconsistent with my remarks,” replied Brennan.....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...russia-are-not-evidence-of-collusion-n2331099


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-interactions-with-russia-are-not-evi.505580/

 

Initiating an investigation to find a crime where no probable cause exists reeks of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and secret police.
Contacts alone do not represent any kind of probable cause and this is especially significant when coupled with statements by leading Democrats that no evidence of collusion has been presented after a year's worth of investigation.
Allegations are proof of nothing. And so far that is all we have. Allegation after allegation from Marxist Democrats unable to accept the fact that their candidate was fatally flawed, that their governing policies were and are still fatally flawed, and that they have lost the trust of the common working man do *NOT* represent proof of anything other than outrageous conspiracy theories.

Do you ever stop to wonder why the lamestream media has not had one single story on the spying done by on citizens by the Obama administration that is just now coming to light? There *is* documented proof of these actions. Yet no clamor by the lamestream media of the Marxist Democrats for investigation of the multiple violations of the 4th Amendment by the Obama administration.

 

Exactly.....and the MS media didn't even question the Democrats who invited the Russian Ambassador to sit on the Floor of Congress when Trump gave his speech.


New Cracks in Russia-gate ‘Assessment’
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/23/new-cracks-in-russia-gate-assessment/
May 23, 2017 · Exclusive: President Obama’s ex-intelligence chiefs admit they limited input into the Russia-gate “assessment,” which was handled by “hand-picked analysts, raising the specter of politicized...
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/23/new-cracks-in-russia-gate-assessment/?print=pdf
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When Brennan testified about the quantity of intelligence about contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russian interests, the first question should have been, “Just how did you come about knowing that the Americans in question were part of the Trump Campaign?”
That whole “17 intelligence agencies” thing was a lie from the get go.
Larry Johnson was right. There was no written report from these “17 agencies”. They did not all conclude the same thing. Another of the many lies of H. Clinton and her sycophant media.
We are being lied to over and over and over again by our government and their lapdog media. It never ends.
There is no point to an ‘investigation’ because they are all corrupt and in on the lying game.
How many in a high state of outrage used the "17 U.S. intelligence agencies all agreed" argument to justify their argument that no one could possibly question the report? Have anyone conceded they may have been mislead? It would appear that the headline should have been: "A small group selected by the political leadership from 24 percent of the U.S. intelligence agencies issued a critical report subsequently leaked to selected media outlets."

 

Hopefully, he'll look at illegal unmasking of innocent Americans, felonious leaking of classified information to the media, conspiracy to commit felonies in the days and weeks before January 20, obstruction of justice by Obama in squashing the email investigation, obstruction of justice by Hillary in destroying emails after they were subpoenaed, and perhaps, depending what else is uncovered, pay to play schemes in the Clinton State Department. He's going to be one very busy Special Counsel. It would be fitting for Obama to end up in jail, where he belongs.

 

My question is this: Why aren't republicans launching investigations into the onslaught of negative and false propaganda you reference, the whitehouse leaks, etc?

The question is, alas, rhetorical. The answer is, half the republicans; those who are invested in returning to status-quo, want to take Trump down too.

 

Have you forgotten during Trump's campaign he called out for Russia to hack Hillary's email?

 

That's because democrats are liars cheats and thieves, who willfully degrade America for their own personal and party goals.

They disgust me.

 

That still don't give the MS media a pass for not asking the appropriate questions when it concerns their own kind of people. If the Russian Ambassador would have sat with the Repubs. The MS Media would have been all over them with asking why he was there. Why did he get an invite to the floor of Congress.

 

Did 17 Intelligence agencies come to the conclusion of the DNI report?

 

That's not what he did! As usual you are quoting false news from the lamestreammedia. Trump said that if Russia *had* hacked her emails perhaps they could provide the 30,000 emails she deleted and scrubbed from her server.
Those emails WERE UNDER SUBPOENA. Meaning Hillary DESTROYED EVIDENCE!
Where are the continuing news stories about how Hillary destroyed evidence during an FBI investigation?

 

“I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” the Republican nominee said at a news conference in Florida. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

 

Yes, those are the three agencies that conducted the investigations, but again they are basing their judgment on the same information. The original statement doesn't originate from the media, but when the intelligence community made a joint statement. No one is saying that there were 17 separate investigations, I think most people understand that by now, but the judgement of the broader intelligence community believes that the evidence is sufficient enough to conclude that Russia did in fact meddle with our elections, and that intelligence community represents 17 different agencies.

It's fine if you don't agree with the intelligence community making a joint statement on the matter, or if you find the statement misleading. You are entitled to your own opinion, but the fact still remains that the intelligence community found the evidence sufficient enough to make a joint statement.

I think you're overstating what the investigation actually is. No one is being charged of any wrong doing without any evidence, all an investigation means is we take an official course of action to uncover the truth. If everyone is innocent, then the investigation works to their favor, as it allows for them to clear their names of any suspicions.

What we know so far is Russia did indeed attempt to meddle in our elections, and at least one national security adviser illegally accepted payment from the Russian government to speak at an event in Moscow, who also illegally discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador, and then lied to his superiors about said contact. Given this information, we definitely have enough probable cause for further investigations, and it is worth noting that it was an investigation that uncovered these activities to begin with, so it is not out of question that more illegal activities may be discovered.

There's no rational reason to oppose further investigations, there are only political reasons. If the US government never investigated the activities within itself, we would have never uncovered the perfidious activities of Robert Hanssen back in the 1990s.

 

Yep! Trump didn't ask Russia to hack anything! He was asking them to look into what they had already hacked to see if the emails were there!
Face it. If Hillary had not committed crimes in removing classified information from its proper repository, had not cheated against Sanders with the DNC, and had not destroyed evidence none of the hacking would have meant anything.
You are whining more about Hillary being caught than about Russia hacking.

 

You wouldn't know that no crime has been commtted from the lamestream media coverage. You wouldn't know it from the Obama hold-over high officials. Collusion is *NOT* a crime. So why all the hoopla by all of these people trying to claim that it is?

An investigation based on no probable cause *is* a lynch mob. If they can do it to Trump then they can do it to *YOU*! It is *exactly* what the secret police of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao did.

How do we know a national security adviser illegally did anything? All we have are allegations that it is so. Not one shred of evidence other than allegations by "anonymous sources" has been provided.

The national security adviser of President-elect Trump discussing Russian sanctions with the Russians is ILLEGAL? Since when? This is *exactly* the point I am trying to make here. Flynn has been convicted in your mind based on nothing more than allegations by anonymous sources and FALSE NEWS stories in the lamestream media.

 

The "joint statement" you have referred to is not the DNI report but an earlier press release from Homeland Security and DNI.

That's two.

 

Duh.......

It's customary for members of the diplomatic corp to attend Presidential addresses. I am always amazed at the fundamental ignorance of the far right wing.

 

Actually, we know that said National Security Advisor lied on his security clearance applications, as have several other senior Trump officials including Jared Kushner (yes, this is a crime).

We also know that said National Security Advisor first tried to shop a plea deal, and is now taking the fifth.

Try again.

 

And I amazed that the leftness doesn't have the brain capacity to figure out. Just who gave that Invitation to the Russian Ambassador.

That which your kind can't get around that fact. How you looking now Tom? Key Word. Invitation. Now the Clue.....He sat with the Demos.

Oh, it is not Customary for members of the Diplomatic Corp to sit on the floor of Congress. But they can attend. Hence all those you find sitting up in the balcony like those who the President invited.

Btw.....duh. Did you want to remove the dunce cap now or later?

 

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Yes, the Dems will blame everyone but themselves.

 

"We know he's guilty. String him up!"

That's how bad this has become.

 

Hmmmm. Trump groping women. Starting a "fake" university to line his pockets. Stiffing contractors HE hired out of pay. Filing multiple bankruptcies to avoid paying his bills. Making fun of the handicapped. And the list goes on. Now who's a liar and thief? Who's the person now who continually degrades America? Yet, Trump zombies continually kiss his ass. And it's obvious YOU are a Trump zombie. Does it disgust me? Hell no. Watching you and other Trump zombies make excuses for your boy? PRICELESS!!!