Where is the real proof of so-called Jews ever havinfg been slaves in Egypt ?

"We tend, in the midst of our disdain for Egyptian, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, to overlook the fact that one of the biggest events of the Jewish calendar is predicated upon reminding the next generation every year of how the Egyptians were our cruel slave-masters, in a bondage that likely never happened. Is this really so different from Jaws the Mossad agent?(*)The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.(*)It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist's best friend) with Hebrew writing on it. It is remarkable that Egyptian records make no mention of the sudden migration of what would have been nearly a quarter of their population, nor has any evidence been found for any of the expected effects of such an exodus; such as economic downturn or labor shortages. Furthermore, there is no evidence in Israel that shows a sudden influx of people from another culture at that time. No rapid departure from traditional pottery has been seen, no record or story of a surge in population.(*)In fact, there's absolutely no more evidence to suggest that the story is true than there is in support of any of the Arab world's conspiracy theories and tall tales about Jews." (*)http://www.sott.net/article/243578-Were-Jews-Ever-Slaves-in-Egypt-or-is-Passover-a-Myth

 

Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists Say

"Really, it’s a myth,” Dr. Hawass said of the story of the Exodus, as he stood at the foot of a wall built during what is called the New Kingdom.If they get upset, I don’t care,” Dr. Hawass said. “This is my career as an archaeologist. I should tell them the truth. If the people are upset, that is not my problem.”The story of the Exodus is celebrated as the pivotal moment in the creation of the Jewish people. As the Bible tells it, Moses was born the son of a Jewish slave, who cast him into the Nile in a basket so the baby could escape being killed by the pharaoh. He was saved by the pharaoh’s daughter, raised in the royal court, discovered his Jewish roots and, with divine help, led the Jewish people to freedom. Moses is said to have ascended Mt. Sinai, where God appeared in a burning bush and Moses received the Ten Commandments.In Egypt today, visitors to Mount Sinai are sometimes shown a bush by tour guides and told it is the actual bush that burned before Moses.But archaeologists who have worked here have never turned up evidence to support the account in the Bible, and there is only one archaeological find that even suggests the Jews were ever in Egypt. Books have been written on the topic, but the discussion has, for the most part, remained low-key as the empirically minded have tried not to incite the spiritually minded. " http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/w...b8fd19500be464&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS&_r=0

 

Did they cross any sea at all? Or could it be it was all Mythology? I am not saying there is no lesson in the Bible story, but I am not convinced it all happened the way the story is told. I am a Christian who does not believe every story happened exactly the way the stories are told in the Old Testament.

 

I am reading about a book entitled The Bible Unearthed. The book says despite modern archaeological investigations and the meticulous ancient Egypt in records from the period of(*)Ramesses II, there is a lack of any archaeological evidence for the migration of a band of semitic people across the(*)Sinai Peninsula, except for the(*)Hyksos. Although the Hyksos are in some ways a good match, their main centre being at(*)Avaris(*)(later renamed 'Pi-Ramesses'), in the heart of the region corresponding to the 'land of Goshen', and(*)Manetho(*)later writing that the Hyksos eventually founded the(*)Temple in Jerusalem, it throws up other problems, as the Hyksos became not slaves but rulers, and they were chased away rather than chased to bring them back. The book suggests the exodus narrative perhaps evolved from vague memories of the Hyksos expulsion, spun to encourage resistance to the 7th century domination of Judah by Egypt.[16]Finkelstein and Silberman argue that instead of the Israelites conquering Canaan after the Exodus (as suggested by the(*)book of Joshua), most of them had in fact always been there; the Israelites were simply Canaanites who developed into a distinct culture. (*)Surveys of long-term settlement patterns in the Israelite heartlands show no sign of violent invasion or even peaceful infiltration, but rather a sudden demographic transformation about 1200 BCE in which villages appear in the previously unpopulated highlands;(*)these settlements have a similar appearance to modern Bedouin camps, suggesting that the inhabitants were once pastoral nomads, driven to take up farming by the(*)Late Bronze Age collapse(*)of the Canaanite city-culture. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Unearthed Interesting, I had never read about the Hyksos people before or their History.

 

This man is an ignorant turncoat with defective chromosomes.

 

And Mickey Mouse met Betty Poop and formed a tribe of nincompoops.

 

Well, lets see your proof there was an Exodus. It is not just him claiming this.

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At least I am not foolish enough to buy into Zionist Mythology.

 

Its look like our bent - Mr or Mrs Bender , cannot back up his/her earlier statements. WOT ?

 

Only neo-Nazi anti-semites refer to Jews as "so called" Jews.

 

and his expertise is in French history so let's say "Cool story, bro".

 

Really ? from al/ I've read , the so-called "Jews" are + have since th year dot disputed amongst themselves about "Jewish " identity.


! Read this

:So you call yourself Jewish? ¬



The first prime minister of the state of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, was said to have once written to 400 scholars and asked them: "Who is a Jew and what is a Jew?" He received, the story continues, 400 different answers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/so-you-call-yourself-jewish-1844265.html


finally at the end of that article from the mouths of JEWS



“It seems to me that the logical outcome of this discussion could be that there is no such thing as a Jew,” concluded Gerald Jacobs wryly.


read and learn :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/so-you-call-yourself-jewish-1844265.html

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We know that when you say "so called Jew" what you are really doing is rehashing your debunked nazi conspiracy theory regarding Khazars, your virulent anti-Semitism is no longer debatable you exposed yourself as the Jew hating Nazi that you are in a previous thread from earlier this month.

 

Rubbish. As you know, most of the original zionists totally detested the Jewish believers of their time, and wanted to replace them with a Germanic 'Volk'. The Zionists are not of Jewish descent genetically either, so it seems that 'so-called' is a kindly way of putting it.

 

Typical Nazi anti-Semitic rhetoric posting debunked Khazar conspiracy theories. Now I know how fake satan worshiping Muslims would like to promote such lies, but only real Muslims support the state of Israel due to the undisputed fact that the Koran while it doesn't mention Jerusalem once strictly says that Israel is the land given by god to the Jews only so called Muslims IE devil worshipers deny such things.

But how can one expect anything less from an imperialist anti-Kafir bigot and racist; such as, yourself?

 

As you know, the Maximalist terrorists were on the same side as Hitler, murdering British troops and booby-trapping their bodies. Zionism is and always was against everything historical Judaism ever stood for, and, as you know, the people of Palestine are the descendants of the Old Testament Jews, as are not the atheist descendants of foreign converts who murder them as their German comrades murdered real Jews, Poles, Roma and, especially, Russian prisoners, not to mention those who opposed racism and its drivel. Grotesquely, your Nazi chums in 'Israel' still prate about 'anti-semitism' and desperately try to bring it back to 'justify' their racism, torture, ethnic cleansing and massive child-murder of the real semites as they try to get their paymasters to set up death camps. You know all this, man. You are not Goebbels, so give it up!

 

Charming.

I myself am part Jewish. More on my granddads generation and I'm surrounded by Muslims who originally came from Pakistan,India and Iran.

I've taken absolutely no hostility. In fact they are quite hospitable although quite a few do keep to themselves.
Ironically I actually speak more Arabic than they do.

My stance on Israel. It shouldn't of been created there. But as it's there and holds a significant number of people, it deserves to continue.

 

Charming my good fellow....
Now a country is universally recognized by its archeology and history, and Israel is peppered with archeological sites proving that this is the Land of the Jews... The British have made a mess in all the colonies they governed... they made a bloody mess and I mean real blood in India and Israel...

 

Actually we did not make a mess in all the colonies. Australia, NZ, Canada, SA, Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong are just a small number of countries that can universally considered wealthy and successful.

1. Palestine was a mandate not a colony or possession which meant that it had to be given up in time.
2. India actually benefited from our rule in quite a number of circumstances. Feel free to ask how.
3. We tried to restrict immigration into Palestine and to keep the peace during the mandate.
4. What does the British Empire have to do with the topic at hand or what I've just written in my previous post?
5. A country is not recogised by archaeology. If that were the case then I would have to say to all my fellow countrymen here in the north to go back to Denmark and Norway. Or maybe they should form their own Yorkshire Republic.

 

Look at that everyone, once again Captain angry (HBendor) can't defend his own flawed arguments so chooses not to respond.

 

My country sir, has not been created but rather RECONSTITUTED, the Fathers and Mothers of Ancient Israel are buried there... That a country is not based on its Archeology and History is the most boorish thing that some one who could read can utter... We shall dispense with all these countries i.e. Turkey, Greece and Italy to name a few, that can prove beyond the scope of anything alive today their existence according to Archeology and History something that is presently denied by your British Majestic Duplicity.

 

Remind me to give you a medal for divulging your 'Ancestry'... A British Soldier was beheaded not so long ago for less than that and you elate yourself to your heart content by the results of some savages that your country has embraced... Frankly I hope they fly their Flag over 'Your house of Parliament' you deserve that, since you let the foxes in your chicken coops.

 

I'm assuming that you've based your info of the film Ghandi.

For a start Amritsar was not a part of state policy. General Dyer acted on his own and was summarily punished for his crimes.
Also the riflemen involved in the shootings were not soldiers from Britain but a mix of Kannada and Nepalese soldiers and quite a few of them deliberately missed.
You know what I also got the same BS from quite a few Irishmen and guess where he was from. Belfast.


Now prior to British control over India the Niwabs and Raja's had the unrestricted right to murder their own citizens without due process which is something we denied them. Also was the act Sati/Sooti which I'm guessing you have some idea about was also banned.

Maybe they should not of been shooting at our soldiers.

This topic was never about Britain. You just plain don't like what I write about so you try and combat wherever possible.
And you haven't done it in the most impartial way which would actually earn you some credibility.

Another question what is it in your life that actually inspires you to be hateful to other people and impose some sort superiority over yourself?

 

No - the people deserve to continue, with full human rights, in a non-racist, non-religious State of Call-it-what-you-Like.

 

I was trying to say that background is not that relevant here.
They don't actually have a flag, they are not plotting to take over and sorry pal you don't live here, I do.

Drummer Rigby RIP. Was killed by a lunatic not by popular will.

You mean the houses of Parliament. which btw is something we gave you as well in the form of the Knesset.