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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    This ticking time bomb of yours is unnerving. The US has been in problems before, and there are always doomsayers that say radical action must be taken in order to prepare for it. I don't think some sort of racial apartheid is going to save America, especially when the racial footprint on the overall American situation- economy or otherwise- is negligible. They could be hear today and disappear tomorrow, I don't think it would hardly make a difference. The money that went to them is likely to go to more weapons or something, and the low-caste jobs they seem to occupy on average will then be filled up by White people who- in time- will become as hated, villified, and criminal in appearance, in effect becoming the new Negro's of America.

    These revolutionary thoughts are interesting to me, because they always replace one system with another system based on how a few people think it should be ran, never mind that it is now simply another group that bares the brunt of the new civilization. It is basically a restructuring of the have's and have not's which never results in fairness, it just shuffles the deck.

    Also, you are not the first to suggest cultural assimilation versus multiculturalism. However, there is no example in the world where assimilation is successful. There is always trade between the two. However, it has been employed to some extent and those countries never really prosper long. All the great empires of the world became empires because they did not try to assimilate, but they created subservient satellite cultures. Yes, they put their own culture on a pedestal, but they said that you are allowed to have yours only to the extent that it does not undermine our authority over you. They also offered the possibility of citizenship- a form of class mobility- to these satellite cultures to become a part of the master-culture, as this concept worked well in terms of Imperial administration.

    But last, I think I talked about my views of it with you before, but revolutionaries are only transitional events that just reassigns the roles of the privileged and the not. The ideal of freedom from oppression is ancient in origin, and no revolution has ever created a free society. One can argue that the freedoms we perceive in society are an intellectual restructuring of the way power is projected over people. Instead of ruling with the iron fist, the population is allowed a personal space because they hold all the resources. You can run away from home, and some willful few may even learn to survive, but the vast majority will starve and return because they are incapable of survival on their own.
     
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    You can say that again! :)

    Meanwhile, I'm white and do not have a problem with Black People. In fact, I'm sorta enamored with African American culture and music, just like the rest of the planet is. Heck; they have rappers in Iran for christsake. So it's remarkable how we both adore the culture, and yet at the same time, think of Blacks as criminal elements, when in fact, the crime rates are driven by poverty which is a real problem in urban black communities, where there's both limited to no opportunity to get ahead, aside from selling some rock to crackheads, plus police target these communities far more heavily than white communities, in which drug use is as high or higher than among blacks. So if white neighborhoods have kids rolling good dope or their parents snorting some coke with their merlot, no problem, and no need to patrol the heck out of it looking for arrest opps.

    You feel me, my wigga?
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    There can't be an "objective fact", lol. Either it is true or it isn't.

    I find it cute "science" in the end. Testosterone is now the culprit behind violent crimes? White males don't have as much testosterone as Black males, lol? Perhaps you are right, I really can't prove it myself one way or the other, but I am too aware of past hoaxes to be convinced by things that just sound silly. The study that Black males may have more testosterone than White's may be true, but I'm not sure where that even comes close to being tied to crime. I'm also inclined to believe that this is more an ongoing hypothesis than an actual scientific fact. Am I wrong?
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    "Sometime it's necessary to kill the chicken in order to scare the monkeys."
     
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    Incoherence is not a virtue. Thanks for the chat.
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Brevity is the soul of wit.
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    No it's not. There would be no books if that were true.
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    I would be pleased to discuss these issues with you, but I respectfully request that you distill you points down to a few. Thanks.
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    I explain the points you simply make. If you want to make points without explaining them, get a twitter account. They specialize in brevity without basis.
     
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    Ok...............................
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    Ah, oops, re-read what you said, and I'll keep it brief. Apologies. I'm doing other things at the same time.
     
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    What you are, is not worth talking to,.
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, then.
     
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    Do you think poverty has anything to do with it Albert, thats a sincere question. There was a time when white ethnic groups took turns taking center stage for the most violence. Irish gangster, then german then jew, then italian.
    They all took turns running Harlem, hells kitchen and all the crime hotspots.
    Im not excusing black crime nor am I denying it exists I am saying the ethnic whites had their turn.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    I'm multi-racial, Black, White, Cherokee.

    And the problem my White and my Cherokee selves have with my own Black ass boils down to values and culture.

    The Black part of me subscribes to a set of values which my other selves find unacceptable.

    This sometimes lead to awful disagreements.
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Poverty is part and parcel of the problem. But about half of African American is now both impoverished and dependent. The dependency is something other groups didn't experience. Dependency has torn the soul out of the African American underclass.
     
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    I disagree, when the different white ethnic groups came to america they were dependent, they had nothing thats why some turned to gang crime. There was a difference in that there were no govt handouts then. That made crime all the more necessary.
    Let me reflect on italians, they brought organized crime with them to america from Sicily and italy. The crime in sicily was predicated on poverty.
     
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    The American Indians were doing fine before the Euros came and ruined them.

    I was in a liquor store, this Indian came in and dug dirty pockets till he got enough coins on the counter for whatever wine or something he was buying. The look of disgust and contempt on the lady cashiers face as she sold him the poison was something to put in history books.

    Sooner or later the blacks and Indians will have to find their way out of the pit they've been thrown into, but i dont think it will be following the bread crumb trail.

    I do wish them well, despite my extreme aversion to black men.
    Thats just me, Id a lot rather have no reason to need to feel that way.
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    All racial groups and mixtures thereof have essentially the same material to work with. However, all cultures are not equal. Some cultures have developed characteristics that make them successful, e.g., valuing educational excellence.
     
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    sheesh, and I though my bicultural self was mixed up!
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    How many generations did it take for those Italians who came here and their progeny to be assimilated?
     
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    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    How did the Cantonese come to think of themselves as Han?

    How were the Euro colonists and white settlers different from the Mongols and Ottomans?

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    Mat yeh? Gung hay fat choy little dragon.
     
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    Middleroad New Member Past Donor

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    4 maybe but the point remains that as people move out of poverty crime diminishs. Italians were the largest ethnic group in America for a couple of decades and the most identified with crime especially violent crime.
     
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    Italian's didn't assimilate, they still retain their culture. All the groups in America still maintain their individual cultures, for the most part.

    There's no difference between Imperialists. They come and they destroy for their own benefit. I'm not sure about European's, but American's are loathe to take any claim in the consequences of their actions. They've influenced the world around them, negatively, for a long time, while holding judgement on other nations. I think it is the hypocrisy and the audacity of the country to hold the moral position it does in spite of what it has done.
     
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    mat yeh aaaaaa :D

    Im more a rat than a dragon but thanks for the wishes.
     
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